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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Tbf that's not toxic masculinity usually, just stupidity. It's the same shit for men and women a like, and some idiots even teach their spawns to ride without one. But I guess you only buy helmet for the kids you want to keep...

If something I've learned from 15 years of bmx and MTB, is that there's no such a ride that doesn't warrant using a helmet; was it visiting shop, picking kid from daycare or a day ride

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I disagree I would say most kids/teen's refusing to wear helmets for cycling and skating are doing it because they think it's uncool, why is it uncool? Because it makes you look less tough afraid of falling, definitely toxic masculinity.

Head injuries, accidental bad falls can ruin your life.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd call it toxic masculinity if it was primarily a male problem. In skateparks sure it is, but when you look at the streets people commuting, a helmet is a rare sight and it's almost even more common to see a guy with helmet than a woman.

It's similar to toxic masculinity, but I'd rather call it hivemindlessness lol

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I’d call it toxic masculinity if it was primarily a male problem.

Toxic masculinity is not a solely male problem, it's a set of behaviors that's harmful or potentially harmful to either the person itself or people around them that is perceived as normal masculine behavior.

It’s similar to toxic masculinity, but I’d rather call it hivemindlessness lol

Those are the same things, Toxic masculinity is literally the product of the hivemind, the idea that you are a wuss if you protect your brain and wear a helmet isn't something that you are born with.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago

Yes, it is the same thing except the "masculinity" part. The "feminine" counterpart is toxic femininity.

We're talking about a problem that's not specific to either of those

[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not just stupidity, some people might just make different risk calculations than you. BMX and MTB is way different than visiting a shop.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If your risk calculations exclude every other person on the streets, sure I can understand why skipping helmet in order to preserve cool factor and hairstyle seems reasonable.
If you count in the fact that any idiot might just hit you down with their car after mixing pedals or some kid run in front of you, it's just obvious to wear a helmet unless if you're an idiot.

Using a helmet is basically comparable to a seat belt. Zero effort really, just a habit you're supposed to learn from childhood and automatic ever since.
How would you call a person refusing to use seatbelt other than a idiot?

[–] AchtungDrempels@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You should stop mountainbiking if you really care about risk avoidance so much, "unless you are stupid and an idiot". It's much riskier than casual cycling without a helmet.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

Yes exiting your house is also a huge risk, and statistically staying home is even bigger risk. Better just lock yourself to a soft room in an institute or commit unalive. /s

You clearly seem unable to understand what a stupid risk is. You're ignorant to the point you'd take a risk with zero possibility for a positive outcome, just for your fragile ego. Just like the rednecks too cool to wear a seatbelt or a construction worker at hights without harness.
I'd call it fair if it was for the thrill, that's cool and we all have done and are doing stupid dangerous things for it. That's maybe not always smart, but it's what keeps us alive. That's what we're talking about when we think of calculated risks. If I hit this trail, there's a chance I'll hit a tree if I make a mistake. Or I'll grind that rock garden with my face. I'm well aware of those risks.

Stupidity is to imagine those risks don't exist or let your ego ignore them because "I'm so fucking tough" or "I don't want to mess my haircut and I'm not gonna fall anyways I'm not a kid"