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we live in hell

I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] mystik@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So the only way to opt out of this hell is to kill your internet connection? That sucks!

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I blocked the servers with my pihole. Coincidentally, my two smart TVs are the two most blocked devices on my network. It’s not even close.

https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/a8efac43-9e00-4f4d-b30b-0ce6d5246f06.jpeg

This was with only ~1 hour of TV watching, while the device in the third spot is my phone (which I had been using all day). And yet the second TV still had almost 3x as many blocked requests.

Smart TVs are fucking invasive.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I really need to learn how to set that up.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s easier than ever these days. The hardest part is figuring out how to configure your router to point devices to it. Because router manufacturers love to bury that setting somewhere deep. For actually setting up the pihole, it’s usually just a matter of flashing the memory card with the right image, then finding some decent block lists. But even the block lists are easy to find nowadays.

[–] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or worse, you have an ISP-provided modem + router that has it locked down. Yes I could buy a router and put it the modem in bridge mode blah blah, so I just configure each device manually.

[–] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the combined modem/routers are almost all garbage. You really are better off bridging it and letting your own router do the work. Because the ISP has a vested interest in giving you the cheapest router possible.

[–] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It’s actually not that bad; I certainly wouldn’t choose it (it’s an Arris) but I don’t want to put $400 down for a router. (I have no idea what a router costs. I’d also spend a month researching the exact perfect router and then take weeks with custom firmware and configuration and miss spending time with the family.)

[–] MelodiousFunk@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

I’d also spend a month researching the exact perfect router

Every time I do this I come away disgusted with how trash most technology is and just how awful manufacturers are willing to make the experience just to get those precious data harvesting bucks. See also: this thread. Womp womp.

[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

If it helps, mine was like $150 and it’s pretty solid upper-mid-range (asus rt-ax82u) right out of the box with minimal setup. My partner got a $400 ish one because he’s very high level IT, and wanted it for remote work, and it’s way overkill even for his use (but as long as the hardware doesn’t fail or the standards change, it’ll be good for a long time no matter what speed increases/demands happen). I guess if you simultaneously stream a lot up/down or need something capable of supporting a small office of people, but if not the mid-range routers are pretty good, lots of options, QoS features, and mine has its own built-in vpn host that can be set up if not running something like openvpn (tho it can also handle those). Dunno if thats standard these days, but it certainly makes my pihole more useful, since I can use it on my phone when I’m not home.

Really, if you go with something made for a purpose that’s a bit beyond your own use (in my case, gaming model because it’s designed for online multiplayer with low latency and a house full of connected devices, which is well beyond my own streaming of solo games), it’ll at least be better than the combined models (which are very low end), and probably way more than you actually need, so you have room to grow if desired. Plus in the long run it’ll be significantly cheaper since you won’t be paying $5/mth for something you never own (I assume that’s what you are being charged as that’s standard around me). It pays for itself in ~2-2.5years, depending what you get, and after that it’s all savings, since a decent router can be good for considerably longer than 2 years.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Sylver@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Username does not check out :(

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not really, if you're a little technical.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What if you're a big technical?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

It’s complicated.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Then Pihole is just the beginning.

/Matrix soundtrack plays

/complimentary donuts and coffee are over on the side table

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

yeah lol, no real need to obfuscate those ip fyi

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

So the only way to opt out of this hell is to kill your internet connection?

No. It's actually simple to disable. On the Roku TV just go to:

Settings > Privacy > Select Smart TV Experience and disable “Use Info from TV Inputs”