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we live in hell

I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] drahardja@lemmy.world 361 points 11 months ago (26 children)

Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago (25 children)

I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

[–] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 79 points 11 months ago (13 children)

This is the way (Jellyfin here)

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[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn't consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

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[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 234 points 11 months ago (6 children)

What brand? so I know NOT to buy it

[–] Rognaut@lemmy.world 143 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I believe it's Roku. That purple symbol in the bottom right is on the remote as well.

Very budget so this doesn't surprise me.

[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 49 points 11 months ago

Also beneath the purple asterisk is the words "Roku TV" in grey on the bezel

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[–] AZERTY@feddit.nl 42 points 11 months ago (28 children)

The little asterisk symbol on the screen is leading me to believe it's a Roku.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 224 points 11 months ago (20 children)

See the problem is that you let a display device connect to the internet

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 111 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Connected a Samsung smart TV to my network when we first got it. The thing damn-near crashed my pi-hole asking for so many ad/tracking domains. Factory reset it later that same day. I think my % of requests blocked went from 15% to 68% in just the 3 hours or so the Smart TV was connected.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 58 points 11 months ago (14 children)

They started to wisen up and hard-coded dns requests to 8.8.8.8 to bypass dns ad blockers now. Heck, some apps like Netflix already do it for years now. If your router can transparently redirect all dns requests to your pi-hole, you should use that feature.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So they recognize that the owner of the product is trying to prevent them from collecting data, and actively try to circumvent the owner's security measures? This shit should be illegal, and carry a huge fine. You paid for the device, and it's connected to your network, which you control. I'm sick and tired of corporations thinking it's totally okay to be straight-up spyware and adware. Some supposedly legitimate companies these days make old-school computer viruses look down right respectful.

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[–] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Yep - this. I absolutely abhor "smart" TVs for just this reason.

But, even lack of internet sometimes isn't enough. I recently, and inadvertently, left the wireless adapter on my TV enabled, after having to temporarily join it to my wireless for a firmware update (digital TV tuning needed updating for my region). After I was done, I cleared the wireless config, but I didn't think to go into the other menu where you can entirely disable the wireless adapter.

Little did I realise that meant the TV started broadcasting its own SSID, for friggin' Apple Airplay or some other shit. I found this out when my 9yo daughter was suddenly exposed to some adult content for about 10 seconds. Best guess is a nearby neighbour mistook my TV for theirs.

I've obviously disabled the wireless adapter again, but this has been a terribly difficult lesson I've had to learn.

For anyone concerned, my daughter is OK. My wife had a good chat with her about it. She had considerably more talking down to do with me - I was ready to start knocking on doors, to have my own chat.

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[–] Teon@kbin.social 165 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Anytime you see the word "smart" in the name of the product, remember to mentally replace the word "smart" with "tracking".

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 54 points 11 months ago

"Ad enabled"

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[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 158 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This is called Automatic Content Recognition and it can be disabled in the settings, highly recommend doing that. It should have asked you whether you wanted it enabled when you set up the TV, as it's legally required to be opt-in in the US opposed to opt-out. Since you're using a Roku Smart TV, it specifically is taking two full resolution "video snapshots" every second.

[–] YoorWeb@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"To disable ACR on a Roku TV, the privacy policy says to "visit your Roku TV's Settings menu (Settings > Privacy > Smart TV Experience) and de-select 'Use Info from TV Inputs."

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[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 137 points 11 months ago (11 children)

They’re taking pictures of what you’re watching on the screen and sending it to random 3rd party data collectors to analyze and then harass you with ads.

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[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago (10 children)

This is why my TV does not have internet access.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I like the way 2000s tvs did it, an ethernet cable for any possible firmware updates needed, and an sd card/usb port for media viewing.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 105 points 11 months ago (32 children)

Even if you must own a smart TV (because it's impossible to buy a large-ish TV anymore that isn't), I see no reason to actually connect it to any network. But! I notice recent models will bitch at you on every single power on if you leave them disconnected. So you're not even safe from being annoyed then.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Some people get big computer monitors instead of a TV, because of shit like this.

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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 76 points 11 months ago (16 children)

And this is why we buy dumb TVs

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago

Now that is some serious privacy invading.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 70 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Dumb tv with the latest panel tech is too much to ask for these days too.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

this is one major reason i switched to a projector. The "smart" malware trend has not caught up to home cinema projectors

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[–] Kethal@lemmy.world 69 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You like this episode of Futurama. Would you also like to watch this episode of Futurama?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 35 points 11 months ago

We noticed you found a way to watch this episode without ads. We suggest watching it from one of our providers so they get a cut.

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 63 points 11 months ago (14 children)

We need a Lemmy community dedicated to find, repair and exchange dumb TV. These are become increasingly rare and increasingly needed.

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[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 61 points 11 months ago (4 children)

The comments suggesting the system sends 2 screenshots a second is truly worrying.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

It might take 2 screenshots a second, but I suspect that will be hashed in some way, even if just to save their on incoming bandwidth rather than for privacy reasons.

It's still fucking absolute bullshit though, and has at least told me that anything with Roku written on it is well worth avoiding.

See this shit. They're fucking proud of it.

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[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 60 points 11 months ago

on my TV

good joke

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 59 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

On your Roku TV go to Settings > Privacy > Select Smart TV Experience and disable "Use Info from TV Inputs"

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago (40 children)

The SMART thing to do is to buy a DUMB TV. Pay a little more and get a real TV- you know. A display, with speakers and HDMI inputs. Nothing else.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Disable ACR on your TV. There was a news report that came out last week about this very thing.

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[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 months ago

Drink verification can, peasant.

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (19 children)
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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And this concludes the enshitification of everything.

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 80 points 11 months ago (1 children)

concludes

Oh my, you're quite optimistic today

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

The pitch doesn't need to make logical sense. The entire purpose of horrible shit like this is so some asswipe with a marketing degree can say "look boss, I did a thing". Welcome to late stage capitalism, where no one ever gets fired for shoving another advertisement in somewhere.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

Turn off Smart TV experience on your Roku.

Disable Roku Snooping

[–] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hey! How dare you only pay once for a lifetime of viewing, you should be paying monthly... No daily, for the right to view pieces of cultural history.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 36 points 11 months ago (11 children)

It’s called “Post-Purchase Monetization”, and it’s why your 65” OLED tv is so cheap. They capture and sell your viewing data - but only if you hook it up to an internet connection. So don’t hook them up to an internet connection.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I have two TVs. One is 15 years old, the other is so old that, even though it is still HD (only 720p but it's fine for me) it still has component video.

I will use those TVs until they die and not buy a new one unless I have no choice. I haven't seen a single feature on a "smart" TV that I want and a lot that I don't.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (8 children)
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