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Yes, it so happens a civil war was being fought there.
But the majority of the fighting ended with the second Minsk accords. After 2017 on average only about a dozen people died a year from combat actions. So there couldn't have been much shelling going on in 2022.
How does a dozen or two deaths a year warrant an escalation to a hundred thousand deaths a year?
Which rights, when did this happen? I'm honestly curious abuot this.
Both sides did that. A lot.
But what does that have to do with Russia's 2022 invasion? Putin himself said that Russia would not get involved in the enforcement of the Minsk accords because it was an internal Ukrainian matter.
Because Russia wants to not only keep the land they've invaded but also dictate the way Ukraine conducts it's diplomatic relations with other nations. Ukraine is fighting for it's sovereignty here. Russia is trying to take that away.
no I am talking about the shellings POST accord 1 and then agian POST accord 2.
I have not seen where Putin said he would not enforce it, however 1) Russia is a signitary so they have some enforcement ability, and second the Russian Speaking Minority did request aid
the first one I can think of, and this is not all of it, but Ukraine banned the use of Russian in all of Ukrane, (I mean if shelling homes after 2 peace treaties was not enough)
And at the start they where not wanting to keep the DPR and LPR, but instead get them recognized as independent nations, it was not untill after the votes of the DPR and LPR that they where planning on keeping them, also the USA and the EU are already controling and dictating Ukraines forign policy, so by that metric they are not sovern any way.
4 if you are refering to the not joining NATO both NATO and Ukraine had agreed that that wold never be an option, after the fall of the berlin wall, NATO garenteed Gorbie, that they would not expand past their current boarders, Russia is fighting an exsistintal threat, the aliance's express purpous is anti-russia pro USA, and there is farther proof, by every time that Russia (or the USSR) has asked to join they have been rejected out of hand. Russia is not trying to take away any sovernty