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They cannot achieve what white people consider civilized mostly because of those endless wars. I hate this planet...This was something I learned in 2003, but most people don't realize it today. Imperialism is the highest stage of 🤡.

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[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

The concept of civilisation might not map neatly into the concept of whiteness but you're definitely on to something. By this I mean that within the 'international community', different groups of people are considered to be white. But they might be more unanimous as to who counts as civilised.

Both concepts have class characteristics, though. The people deemed not-white or uncivilised are expected to do the worst jobs and be happy about it: race and civilisation, like gender, have a material foundation in capitalist relations of production. They might be social constructs but they are as real as anything else. Given that everything is historically contingent, it can't always be said that something isn't real just because it wouldn't exist in all epochs.

(I'm not the down voter, btw.)

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