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The whole article is quite funny, especially the lists of most used tankie words, or the branding of foreignpolicy as a left-wing news source.

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[–] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Cringe compilation: Apparently you can measure how toxic comments are on a graph. This says we are racist against almost every race besides Native Americans. It says Vaush isn't leftist (true) but then calls his subreddit "far-left."

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 1 year ago

My comments are so toxic that if you print them and ingest them you'll likely die.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The part saying that they ‘observe that tankies attack the identities of Asians, Arabs, Hindus, Mexicans, Africans, and Whites in more than 20% posts mentioning these identities’ was what irritated me the most, because it is a serious accusation and yet it’s so poorly substantiated. (Notice how no quotes are given as examples.) It’s almost as if they relied on a computer programme to do all of their homework for them.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I suspect that the way they came to that conclusion was: any post mentioning one of those groups, that also had a negative sentiment rating, meant that sentiment was directed at that group. Which is horribly dishonest. What's more likely is someone to be angry (which registers as negative sentiment) about those groups being mistreated or what have you. By the naive approach they seem to have taken, that's indistinguishable from being mad at that group.

Also, the methodology they describe, and the conclusions they come to don't align. They don't describe any methodology by which they could determine that the identities are being attacked. It would be like if they concluded some cause-and-effect relationship but their methodology had absolutely no way of establishing a causal relationship in the data.

[–] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

They did use a computer program to calculate "toxicity" and how threatening comments were: https://perspectiveapi.com/

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

After hearing about the lawyers who got disbarred for letting ChatGPT handle a case for them(and ended up citing like two or three cases that straight up didn't exist), I'm not 100% certain this isn't just transformer plagiarism.

[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Ah, yes, the Whites™ from Whiteland. Yeah, honestly, fuck those guys.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's the difference between toxicity and severe toxicity

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

poisonous: if it bites you, you die

toxic: if you bite it, you die

severely toxic: my mother in law after a couple beers yes Dana I remember the christmas party

[–] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It relies on this website to calculate both.

The measurements still seem somewhat subjective. You can test how "toxic" comments are here: https://perspectiveapi.com/

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they don't know us very well if they think a disrespectful comment is going to make us leave a conversation

[–] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thinks it's referring to our comments making libs leave the conversation.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

The API is unable to discern between that, it will flag words and sentences differently simply if they contain the keywords.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, being rude to libs seems to egg them on even more.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Do they not realise that this is exactly what we face in every other online space for have the tenacity to insist that publicly recorded and strongly evidenced events did happen?

[–] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Their other "trusted partners" are all horrible but putting Reddit on that list is just a self-own. "Look how not toxic Reddit got, guys!"

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago

next publication: "computation and assessing of the "meany badie nasty bad literaly made me cry" index of the lemmygrad comunity"