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Are Mongols really portrayed as evil in the west?
I honestly can’t even recall portrayals of Mongols in mainstream western media.
They were saying that a lot of Russians have Mongolian heritage and so they're naturally predisposed to violence as part of the war propaganda.
Lol what that seems absolutely insane
In old western historiography, up to like 40-50 years ago Mongols were often portrayed as wild savages, "scourge of god" etc. Socialist historiography was more neutral on them (like Lev Gumilev or Stanisław Kałużyński). Recently westerners did close to a 180 on them though, as part of the historical revision trend going for at least 3 decades (most of that trend is actually not that bad, for example new critical look on ancient roman sources, still a lot worse than marxist view but a lot better than uncritically quoting Suetonius for example). From the top of my head read anything by John Man or Justin Marozzi.
That’s very interesting, I never heard of this.
Screw Lev Gumilev, though
Iirc he was antisemite and proponent of central Asian nationalism? Something like that. Still, i think he did first proper marxist analysis of history of the nomads.
Aye, he's the one who proposed the whole "Ashkenazim are akschually khazars and thus not real Jews". He also blamed these jew-khazars for various things, i.e. introducing alcohol drinking to ancient Rus
Wew, i do know he had some bad takes about Khazars, but not that he coined that vile theory.
I can think of South Park and Ghost of Tsushima.
Ghost of Tsushima is based in Japan but it's made by Sucker Punch so I am counting at as American.
South Park is an interesting example, and one I actually remember now that I think of it.
Though from what I remember they were portrayed as crafty and clever invaders, and both sides (the “Chinese” guy trying to stop them and the Mongol “invaders”) were portrayed in a bad light (kinda like most people in South Park really).