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Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday called on the federal government to move “as quickly as possible” to change the way it officially classifies marijuana, saying that “nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.”

“I cannot emphasize enough that they need to get to it as quickly as possible,” Harris said. “We need to have a resolution based on their findings and their assessment. This issue is stark when one considers the fact that on the schedule currently, marijuana is considered as dangerous as heroin ― as dangerous as heroin ― and more dangerous than fentanyl, which is absurd, not to mention patently unfair.”

Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule 1 drug by the Drug Enforcement Administration. That classification designates it one of the most dangerous drugs possible, with no medicinal uses. Other substances in the same category include heroin, ecstasy and LSD. Marijuana advocates have been pushing for years for the federal government to either reschedule marijuana to a different category or deschedule it entirely.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

You know, this is a pretty smart way to approach the political side of this tactically.

Biden can't say deschedule it outright without offending at least some borderline fence sitters and the elder crowd indoctrinated with the old propaganda that made it out to be among the most terrible things.

By having the younger VP who wouldn't really have direct authority to have it changed but is directly I'm the same circles, it gets the idea out there as a 'very strong unofficial stance'.

Next step, the 'cool grandpa' moment when Biden gets to make a gesture for the younger crowd by having it pulled from the schedules. Financially the feds have undoubtedly been eyeing the income (and lack of incarceration costs) brought into states with legal sales for a while and would like a piece of it too.

[–] Troooop@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Biden already ordered his health secretary back in 2022 to begin descheduling, he hasn't been playing it safe here

[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Biden needs to roll up a fatty and smoke it with those aviators on. Preferably at the top of the stairs to Air Force One.

[–] Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So lies and deception? I don’t know who is left to deceive when this sounds like the position the WH had two decades ago (when Biden was in Harris’s exact role). Since then the only changes have been brought about by State’s thumbing their nose at the Federal Government. I can honestly say the argument for “State’s Rights” hold more promise for marijuana legalization than Harris’s words.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Neoliberals dont want elected to help people, they want to get elected.

It's why they can see something like this where a president could do something day 1, but waits four years before doing it, and call it smart strategy. Even when it's not a political.process and the president can do it on their own.

It's why there's always the focus on "stopping by the republican".

That's all neoliberals want to accomplish, get in office and hold on as long as they can.

Progressives want to get elected to help people, and have faith if you help people they'll vote for you.

There's no sane reason for neoliberals to be running the Dem.party on national and state levels, but it's a private party and they get an absolute shit ton of money from billionaires and corporations. So it's very hard to kick their old asses out of power while also fighting off conservative extremist Republicans.

But when the neoliberals wins, nothing gets fixed. Their dogs chasing a car, if they catch it they dont know what to do, so they lay down and wait for another car to drive by.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Progressive idealism is all well and good, but without acknowledging the realities of a highly polarized world and the balances of power in play all it will ever be is idealism, never realized fact.

Many of the broader growths in society didn't have a defining 'flip the switch' moment and instead where the result of small changes that then where the building blocks to bigger ones after the smaller steps where accepted as normal parts of society.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Progressive idealism is

Is made up.

No progressive says we can't address a problem until it's 100% solved.

That's what neoliberals say for an excuse not to make any improvements.

It was literally Biden s excuse last primary for why he wouldn't address student loan debt. He said if he forgave all student loans debt it wouldn't matter because new students would still need loans.

So Biden said his priority would be first lowering the cost of college.

Then he got elected, never mentioned that, and forgave almost enough to be a rounding error in the trillion of dollars in student loan debt and demanded applause.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Recall that the SC blocked him on some of that (reminder that elections have consequences) and there were efforts to reduce costs for future borrowers too.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/08/24/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-student-loan-relief-for-borrowers-who-need-it-most/

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"They wait 4 years to accomplish their policy proposals, this is evidence they never accomplish any policy proposals"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They wait 4 years to accomplish their policy proposals

Don't act like they've accomplished them.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You have to realize that there's a certain element of theatrics to politics right? With the flood of information thrown at people everyday the population has the attention span and memory of goldfish often as not. Had they done some drastic change day one (if it could even pass congress/courts without being killed) it'd be long forgotten old news by now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's much better to drag it out until the very last possible second, since it's not like people are suffering due to the deliberate prolongation of the racist drug war.

It's still disrupting the communities it was designed to disrupt, so let's talk about how great it is that we're trying to game the timing of fixing this. I'd ask if it's possible to be more cynical, but I already know it is because we're playing the same timing game with Netanyahu's genocide.

Yes, it's theatrical. And people are being used as props.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Didn't say it was good, but it's reality. The alternative of attempting to do everything you have on a wishlist with no compromise or negotiation, and thus getting nothing is hardly better. Had it been tried to push everything to max results day one would at best, in some imagined place get all that in, be forgotten 3 years later as 'what have you done for me lately' and caused the opposition to be energized en masse to put their guy in and rip it all back out the next day.

A small win that's held is worth far more than a massive one lost shortly after.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

The alternative of attempting to do everything you have on a wishlist with no compromise or negotiation, and thus getting nothing is hardly better.

Neat false dichotomy. Enjoy the drug war dragging on for as long as possible and hurting communities in pursuit of putting on a good show.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

EDIT: Thought better of that one.

But seriously, stuff treating millions of people's lives like a fucking game. You disgust me.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that this is potentially the only positive change they could make in people’s lives that might actually make money, so once they’ve done it, there’s nothing else that lines up with both the interests of the party and their voters. Even prison reform as a whole might be a net loss in spite of the current system’s incredible cost to taxpayers due to the chilling effect it has on social mobility and the slave labor that the bourgeoisie can profit off of.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can't do the only easy thing we can do because then we won't have any easy things we can promise to do that we just won't!!!

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Why would they actually move on it, if it’s the only bargaining chip they’re willing to use? The republicans fucked up by doing that with abortion, though because that oppresses people instead of liberating them, the gop is doubling down on it. Dems don’t have the option to do that, so we’re left with easily actionable campaign promises going unfulfilled for four years.

[–] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago

Just another thing they pretend to do to get elected but Don't actually accomplish anything.