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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not just about you guys. If we let this slide then our laws about not supporting human rights violations are a dead letter. We have important domestic reasons for holding Biden's feet to the fire.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh good, our laws about not supporting human rights violations will TOTALLY be stronger with Trump in office. Thanks.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They aren't going to stay strong if we don't defend them either though. They can become a dead letter under the Democrats too.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, forgive me for not seeing "Well, if we contribute to Biden's defeat, MAYBE next time, after the Trumpist genocide here in the States is done and if we get a democracy again, we won't tolerate genocide abroad, because THIS time there will be PRECIDENT for giving power to fascism if the politicians don't listen to less than half of their own party on foreign policy!" as a particularly appealing line of reasoning.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, you think Trump is going to commit genocide in the US? Lmao. That's a new level even for Biden die hards.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Imagine hating LGBT people this much.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, now anyone who wants to hold Biden accountable hates LGBT people?

Imagine using this many bad faith arguments to defend a politician. And not asking yourself where things went wrong.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow, now anyone who wants to hold Biden accountable hates LGBT people?

Is that what you got from "Trump will definitely perform a genocide on LGBT folk and pretending otherwise is delusional at best or homophobic at worst"?

I mean, I guess if you want to call yourself out for seeing the only means of 'holding Biden accountable' as ushering in a fascist Trump regime, that's on you, but I have to admit I wasn't expecting to see an admission quite that naked.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No it's what I got from you saying I must hate LGBTQ people. Which is just a ridiculous jump to make. And for all of this worrying Biden hasn't used the Constitution to protect LGBTQ people from what's already happening. So to bring them out as fucking hostages to voting for Biden is ridiculous. If they want that credit then they need to be arresting GOP state officials on federal charges.

At this point you're just throwing ridiculous ad hominems around because you cannot defend Biden's actions.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And for all of this worrying Biden hasn’t used the Constitution to protect LGBTQ people from what’s already happening.

Oh, of course! He just had to use the power of the Constitution! Silly Biden! Here I thought we had a government with actual processes, and a judicial branch that's completely fucked by conservative appointees, despite the Biden administration's defense of cases in favor of LGBT rights and multiple executive orders defending LGBT rights. It was just that he had to INVOKE the constitution, and then everything would be fine! The power of the dictator-I mean, president!

Wow. Thank you for enlightening me.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Mmhmm yes it's processes when it's LGBTQ people or Unions but it's illegally going around Congress when it's Israel. We see you.