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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by aidnic@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

Been seeing a lot of outrage thrown at them recently their protests and been seeing a lot of people trying to disrupt these protesters for “disrupting” them and that they could cause inconvenience to emergency services but at the same time,I feel as though these actions are necessary sort of to better spread the message since the bourgeois media is going to turn a blind eye to it. So, since I’m not really familiar with the whole thing, I want to see what you think of them.

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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Creating oil spills is based now?

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I'm sure there are plenty of in construction pipelines that could be targeted.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 1 year ago

And will this solve the apparent need the industrialised society has for oil?

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The best way to get a person to stop eating sugar is for them to not buy any cakes, cookies, and candy to begin with. Taking away this industrial vice might be the only way to break this industrial vice if the leadership is hellbent on not having any change.

[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It's not about leadership. It's about production. Do you think a socialist society will magically immediately invent a way off the oil hook? Sure, the incentives will be better. Gas guzzlers will go away. Materials, however? Unlikely.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course it’s about leadership. If the present leadership pushes oil, then guess what companies and people are going to use?

Also what do you mean “invent”???

Last time I checked we invented the nuclear reactor in 1943, and renewables have been around for decades.

Also there are many many substitutes to plastic in the world. They just aren’t used because plastic is cheaper. Make plastic less cheap? Well now the other materials look very very nice in comparison. Other then extremely niche cases, what materials cannot be substituted away from plastic? What roles can recyclable metal, paper, or plastic-like bio-film, not fill?

We could cut oil consumptions by factors of magnitude over the course of just a few years.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pipelines have automatic shutoff valves every hundred meters for situations like that. The oil would immediately stop flowing the second the pipe sensors detected a loss in pressure.

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