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First off, I’m truly asking this in good faith, please be nice but correct me too on anything I saw that’s stupid.

As an anarchism, my ideal solution for Palestine is a no-state solution where people are allowed to move freely, interact freely, and work being done on both sides to heal from the decades of conflict and live in one society.

Now you folks (I love you folks) aren’t all anarchists and I’d love to hear your thoughts. Sometimes I’ll see people saying that all Israelis should just move somewhere else, but I think that’s really dumb. Both sides seem to be operating on the assumption that the other group will leave, which in my opinion is just as racist thinking as saying all the Palestinians should just leave.

So what are the tankie’s (/j) thoughts.

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[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

The situation in occupied and greater Palestine is complex and it's necessary to understand that there needs to be a levelling of the playing field; a vast amount of reparations from Israel is required.

The problem with a no-state solution is that in effect it amounts to kicking away the ladder. If Israel was abolished tomorrow Palestinians and former-Israelis would not be starting from the same position - Israel has built itself up while continuously knocking Palestine down. The disparities in health, education, economic participation, development, and the sheer degree of trauma that Palestinians have been subjected to and so on isn't going to be swept away with a no-state solution.

Thus I would argue that there needs to be a centralised authority which works to achieve restorative justice and to address the inequities that are now deeply embedded into the material conditions of Palestine.

It would be wonderful if we lived in immense abundance, where people would be overflowing with generosity, but people are parochial in their outlook by their very nature. It would be borderline impossible to get a hardline Zionist former-Israeli to wake up one morning and think "Yeah, I really would like to see 10% of what I produce to be diverted to the cultural enrichment of Palestinians!" For that matter, you don't take a person who gleefully slaughters Palestinian children one day and expect that they are going to be all kindness and compassion towards Palestinians the next simply because the state of Israel ceased to exist in the meantime. So there's going to be the need for a state of some description and I cannot imagine any other way of addressing the material conditions, let alone the structural and social and cultural factors that a liberated Palestine would have to grapple with.

I think that half of the population of Israel would return back to places like Europe and the US if Israel ceased to exist, especially when they are no longer provided the special privileges that the state of Israel currently affords them. I don't think that expelling former-Israelis is an ideal solution imo, although when Palestine is liberated I'm not going to condescend to dictate how they ought to go about their own liberation and decolonisation; if you sow the seed of colonialism but you don't like the fruit that this tree will eventually come bear, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Skill issue.

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