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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 90 points 3 months ago

The entire party system need thrown out the window.

If one party is that bad (they 100% are) it means we really don't have an option on what party we vote for.

And the "good" party has been running around for almost a decade telling people primaries are nonbinding so it doesn't matter if they influence it. Because if they wanted to, they could just cancel everyone's primary like they did to NH a few months ago and tell us who the nominee is.

And it would be 100% legal, there's nothing anyone can do to stop them.

One party is obviously worse, but only having one option isn't democracy.

And there is zero indication the "good" party will ever voluntarily give up their place as the only sane option.

The people have to do it without the help of either party. And if we keep blindly supporting one or the other party, shit will keep getting worse.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 55 points 3 months ago

Nothing will change for the better until there is electoral reform in the US.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

And there won't be electoral reform as long as the president has a R or D by their name...

Both parties has too much to lose if there's any other viable option.

Which is why I'm still pulling my hair out over no one else caring the two parties took over the debate system this cycle and have complete control over who is allowed to debate.

The parties keep grabbing more and more power, and telling members of both that they can't ask any questions because this election is too important to have any standards.

They're both going to keep saying it no matter what happens

[-] Wrench@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Congrats. You're getting slightly more subtle. You set up a your first comment with the "both sides" fast follow.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

And there is zero indication the "good" party will ever voluntarily give up their place as the only sane option.

Ranked choice voting has been gaining in popularity within the Democratic party. If a candidate supports it, vote for them!

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 months ago

And there is zero indication the “good” party will ever voluntarily give up their place as the only sane option.

How would they go about "giving up their place as the only sane option"? By acting crazy so there is no sane option? Or by asking the other party to stop being insane? They are constantly asking them to not be insane, constantly asking them to vote on bipartisan bills. It's just the insane party doesn't want to stop being insane. They're crazy like that.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

give up their place as the only sane option.

If you're having difficulty, try removing some adjectives and see if it's easier to understand:

give up their place as the only ~~sane~~ option.

If they're the only option besides republicans, they have zero standards besides not being that bad

So they can run candidates more conservative than dem.viters want, and when voters ask for more instead of opening a dialogue, they can just scream and holler about how not voting D means you want R.

They'll never give that up for a system where voters get a say.

Makes sense now?

this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2024
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