the original undermines its own message: they are lifting it, even if barely and with difficulty, which implies that those characters are within an order of magnitude or so of literal divine power.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 66 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think that's canonically true for Goku and Hulk

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Goku vs Jesus debate when

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Since Goku existed and has always been a Christ figure?

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Goku has died way more times than Jesus. That probably gives him an edge.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What if Jesus had prep time tho?

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Is 3 days enough?

[–] wick@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Would Kami let Jesus use the hyperbolic time chamber?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sun Wukong is way cooler than Jesus

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Jesus fed the 5000. Goku eats that much every day.

[–] thomcat@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

So this is the power of God and anime

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 4 months ago

Worshiping Goku is a one way ticket to the Home For Infinite Losers.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 4 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, Jesus' message (some of it, scripture is not univocal) is that divine power is within the grasp of us mere mortals. That everyone who follows him would be able to do miracles like his.

(Apologists suggest he was referring to just the apostles to explain why the rest of us are bound by naturalism, but there are implications that's not what he meant.)

Note that Gospel Jesus was big on direct evidence.

That said, the cross was made of wood, and Jesus wasn't the only convict tasked with carrying one. The gravity is in being willing to die for one's principles which all of these characters would do unflinchingly.

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Pointing out that Jesus was absolutely not the only person who carried a cross and was crucified is an excellent point. The cartoonist absolutely missing the whole... thing with thos image.

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 months ago

Matthew 17:20, NIV He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

I was raised Evangelical and yeah, my parents took that literally.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Hell, he wasn’t even the only one carrying his. He stumbled three times and a stranger helped him carry it

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 2 points 4 months ago

Not necessarily... They are merely within an order of magnitude of the strength required to lift the cross all the way. Buff Jesus might be many leagues more powerful than that, for all we know.