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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago

Gotta love how it's still only a third

Like, how stubborn do you have to be?

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 72 points 1 month ago

I've said this before and I'll say it again (and I know it'll just upset the libs, but to heck with the genocide defenders): This is the most VIP invasion in history. Less than 11,000 civilian casualties (and I'm happy and thankful it's so low), Ukrainians have full access to the internet to rant about how the invasion is cheesing them off and to make NAFO memes, they have the ability to go right up to a Russian soldier and tell him to his face that they hope he dies without getting shot, their bunkers have wifi, they have the luxury of flying their troops out (even though there's a war on) to do meet and greets with the public, their refugees are welcomed in other countries and people take them seriously when they complain about being put in an 'ethnic' neighborhood, if even the slightest war crime takes place it's going to be in all the news 24/7, the most powerful nations on the planet are supporting the invaded nation, the invader in this scenario has been made an absolute pariah to the extent that cat competitions won't even allow Russian cats (unless they finally changed this ridiculous rule); honestly every country should hope their nation getting invaded looks this pleasant, whereas in reality it's going to look like Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cambodia, Somalia (remember the Mogadishu massacre alone, which saw the killing of 5,000 people by US troops in one day?), etc.

[-] Tabitha@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

You know how today, everybody knows the US invasion of Iraq was a terrible idea, was proposed on questionable evidence, suspiciously seemed like a war for oil, and had very bad execution, and most people who supported the invasion (celebs, people you know IRL, both libs and fascists alike) are embarrassed to have supported it or pretend they never did?

I am very excited about the upcoming years as the wind of history sweeps away the rubbish heap of NATO propaganda smothering the Ukraine-Russia war.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago

Iraq is an example of a war that disgusts me deeply; regardless of what people think of Saddam, after the sanctions were placed on Iraq demanding that his government cease production of WMDs, he complied; they ceased in 1991 but the sanctions remained. The UN human rights coordinator for Baghdad quit his job to criticized the sanctions as genocide, and his replacement also quit his job saying the same thing, but the sanctions didn't end. When questioned on whether half a million dead children was worth it, Madeleine Albright said yes, they think the price is worth it. Then, when they were accused of producing WMDs before the invasion, they allowed in UN inspectors to prove they weren't producing them, and then when our government refused to accept the findings, they allowed in American inspectors who also said there were no WMDs being produced, and then after Iraq proved they would be unable to effectively fight back in the event of an invasion, we attacked them. Iraq cooperated, again, and again, and again, and not content to merely slaughter a million people through sanctions, we decided we wanted a war to further decimate their population.

Iraq cooperated, and their punishment was mass slaughter. I hope every country we are hostile to never make that mistake again; I hope North Korea (for example) paid close attention and never plays ball.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago

Yeahhh but maaaan that waaas alllll innnn there paaaasssst mannnnn weeee goottttaaa cheeeetooooooooo

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

America has changed, man! We don't do that sort of shady shit anymore, not since checks notes

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not. Mainly because the libs will learn nothing from their own gullibility and terminal movie-brain and will just be frothing at the mouth for the next conflict.

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