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[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're being downvoting because people believe in the "romantic ideal" and never analyzed how relationships really look like for a large number of people.

What you write about is not a good thing but unfortunately that's how most people practice relationships.

Well "most" might be a too strong of a qualifier. Depends a lot on the culture. If you come from a culture where marriage is so important that's almost mandatory, the above kind of relationship is inevitable.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Some of those cons could be true, but I think the bigger problem is that they only listed "sex and money" as the only pros.

What are you doing in a relationship if that person isn't basically a really good friend that you can laugh with, do hobbies with, watch and talk about movies with, share music with, etc.

Sure you might have to hang out with mutual friends you don't love (Though a good partner won't force you to). You do need to spend time on their hobbies and likes if you don't specifically share them. I'm not sure if I can vouch for the rest, though, those are some cons where you need to be really selective and find like minds to be with (don't like to speak very often).

the other two (manipulated for sex, fear of divorce) are more like things you should go to therapy to learn not to tolerate or worry about, respectively.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I agree with you completely. And I actually believe finding a life partner is possible. There are good examples out there.

It's just when you come from a, let's call it heteronormative (word of the day) environment, you are constantly pressured into being in a relationship. With anyone. Doesn't matter if you want it. It leads to awful mental health.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 points 3 months ago

That and if the idea of being lonely frightens you or makes you sad it can be easy to want to latch onto anyone, that's really easy to fall into.

Also, unless they meant fear of breaking up, there's no need to fear being divorced if you just don't get married. Not everybody wants or needs to get married, that also sort of falls into the "take your time and really assess the partner" idea

[–] Kimdracula@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've said this before, my mother and father weren't friends. Yet they were married for 11 years. That's more than many friends being married. Is not necessary.

[–] all-knight-party@kbin.run 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not necessary, no, but it can totally be a pro, unless you just don't want to be friends with your lover.

[–] Kimdracula@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Basically what I've said, some people don't want friends.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So are you a loner or you don’t want a friend who is constantly around?

[–] Kimdracula@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I don't wanna people around besides my partner and I don't want her relatives around me. It seems like these days is impossible to have a relationship that is just you and your woman, or you and your man and that's it. There's always someone else.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago

How exactly do you expect to find someone who you want to be around when you by your own admission hate literally all interactions with other people? Newsflash: sex is a social interaction. Are you imagining that she's just going to pop out of a lamp like a Genie? And where does she go after you blow your load? Do you just put her back in the closet like a blow-up doll?

Just admit that what you really want is a sex worker and be honest. It sounds like you have no interest in tolerating someone else's presence unless they are actively banging you. A relationship is about so much more than just sex.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 3 points 3 months ago

So does that extend to her friends as well? Or is it just family you have a problem with? Also, is it about family that is constantly around and in your business or just that the family feels like they’re part of the relationship too?