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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes, but even there, Berman prevented characters from being gay and out, which is why he quashed what was very obviously intended to be a romantic relationship between Garak and Bashir. Both of them play their characters like there is a mutual attraction in the episode where Garak premieres.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This take has been throwing me off lately. I can definitely see how what a lot of is said can certainly be an innuendo, but personally I just thought thats how Garak is. Always mysterious, giving double entendres, etc. I think it would definitely have been interesting to explore that scenario, but personally I think it already fits very well as "Thats how Garak is with anyone".

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Andrew Robinson said he played Garak as omnisexual and attracted to Bashir. Alexander Siddig has described himself as "not quite straight" and both have played the roles unofficially as there being a relationship.

We see a tiny fraction of the characters' lives. A portion of a 45-minute episode. For all we know, they walked hand-in-hand down the promenade every day for months as everyone commented on what a cute couple they made. We just never saw it on screen.

And I think the choices of the actors matter.

This is where Garak and Bashir first meet. You watch this and tell me it isn't a meet cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTeJKg8Yf4A

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

What's that phrase about "frightened but aroused"?

That.

[–] Kaldo@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

I recently discovered this superior version of that scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR1zgRYL530

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Haha, very well. I stand corrected. It does make Garak a little less mysterious in my mind but thats just fine.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also, Garak seems like a character that's down to honeypot anybody if the mission requires it.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago

You could say Garak really is that way with anyone ;).

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Right, that’s why I said “most”. I know he still caused trouble with those series, too. But he didn’t micromanage them like he did The Next Generation.