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[–] jprice@kbin.run 62 points 3 months ago (5 children)

And Kamala appeals to all the dudes who had shitty weirdo mothers.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 47 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Yeah so, I did not expect to have this reaction to a powerful woman running, and I certainly didn't experience anything like it with Hillary, and honestly it is probably toxic at base, but, uh...

Ka-mommy.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 38 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Shows that America didn't reject women presidents in 2016 so much as it rejected Hillary. The next step on a carefully laid out career path does not a great president make.

If she had divorced Bill in the 00s, she might have had a chance. Staying with her blatantly cheating former president husband just looked like an old school "divorce is bad optics" decision rather than a more feminist "I don't need a husband that doesn't treat me well". Which didn't work well when she was trying to run as the latter.

Her entitlement didn't help, neither did the Democrat establishment working to prevent the progressive option but being willing to back her. Neither did empowering Trump as an opponent she thought she'd get an easy win for when in reality she was the perfect candidate for him to run against.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even if she made every right choice, the Republicans had been smearing her name for 24 years before she ran for president. Her attempt to simultaneously be elected most entitled person certainly didn't help. But I think that's why we nominated Biden in 2020. The watch word was electability because we all saw what decades of FUD did to Hillary.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It's hard to separate cause and effect there. Was she unliked because of the FUD or did the FUD stick because she was unliked?

It was a close election so it was a perfect storm of a bunch of things lining up all at once. Given how close it was, if the FUD did cause the outcome, avoiding some of those errors might have been enough to win.

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I understand that sometimes you love people who hurt you. Staying with Bill was not a problem.

Her problem was that she couldn't conceal her contempt for most people (or gave off an aura of self-superiority if you prefer that take).

She particularly gave off an air of scorn towards non-career women, which is pretty dumb when you need them to vote for you.

I voted for her, mind you, but went Bernie in the primary.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I used to know folks who worked in government and I heard several times that Clinton was very unpleasant to all of the secret service staff too. Could be bullshit but when looking at everything else about her, it tracks.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Shows that America didn’t reject women presidents in 2016 so much as it rejected Hillary.

Up until election day Hillary was expected to win. If Trump wins in November, will you say that America rejected women presidents again?

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

America didn't reject Hillary, the electoral college did. She actually got more votes than Trump did.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

I'm sure that keeps her warm at night, but Trump still got elected.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's fair, it might be premature still to say that. Also, Trump is more of a known factor this time around.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

Don't be gross.

Yeah, everybody knows it's "Momala".

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm just being real about what I'm wrestling with. I'm on a knife's edge of shame as it is, don't push me.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Her step kids call her Momala

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's not that. I have good parents. For me it's the humanity on display. We're so used to these stoic leaders putting out a highly polished inhuman image and Kamala and her husband are out here making faces at each other on the campaign trail. Doug actively tries to crack her up when they're in front of the cameras but not doing speeches or something.

[–] time_fo_that@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

This is absolutely it. She's so much more human than any of the old croaks that trump hangs out with.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 11 points 3 months ago

And Donold is so mentally broken that he is unable to genuinely belly laugh at anything. That's really creepy once you notice it.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

America's Step-Mom, literally.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We need to keep her away from any open front loading washing machines.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Literally?

Wow, how does she have time to run for office?

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I think it's correct usage of literally because both statements are literally true. She's a step mom and is America's person, just not technically the step mom of hundreds of millions of people's...

...or is she?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago

I can't find anything in the rule book against it

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy to have an age and gender appropriate candidate for POTUS.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it's refreshing to go back to the tried-and-true boomers after the brief experiment with a silent generation president.