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Classic rock hate thread (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 months ago by wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

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I actually like a lot of classic rock (yes even Hotel California, that solo kicks ass) but there is a lot of bad classic rock too. What do you think the worst classic rock song is? What is the most overrated band or artist? I think Supertramp is mid at best, but Bob Seeger is truly dreadful.

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

saying that you think a thing that is broadly considered to be good is actually bad?

That's not what you're saying when you're saying something is overrated. By your own definition you are saying it isn't as good as people say it is. By my definition it is saying something is less of a certain positive quality than people say it is. Neither of these definitions are the same as saying something is bad.

you think the word "overrated" sucks.

Who is the one inventing arguments here? I've never said the word overrated sucks and I have already answered this point in my previous reply.

it makes you feel superior to people who use it.

I feel like you're projecting a lot of negative assumptions on to me based on nothing.

it would be like if i suddenly decided that your use of the word "negative" is invalid, actually the only valid use of the word "negative" is the photography related noun.

Except for the fact that "overrated" isn't a synonym for "I don't like it" or "bad".

in what context would you find it applicable to call something "overrated"

You got an example at the very first thing I posted: "I don't like Bruce Springsteens music, but there is a reason he's called The Boss". I don't see why you're saying you can't fathom any sayings, when that's right there. Here's two more anyway.

"I like falafel, but I think it's overrated. So many people say it's their favourite food, which, like, it's good, but it's not that good"

"I know it's wayyy overrated, but my favourite series is Breaking Bad. It's not groundbreaking or anything, but I still like it."

These are completely rational sentences.

[+] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

When I tried engaging in a discussion with you about those comments to understand them.

Starting off with a curt one-sentencer isn't really an invitation to have a discussion, most certainly not a good faith one. Following it up with unfounded assumptions doesn't really improve it. For the next time I recommend asking a question related to the thing you want to "investigate" instead.

you gave me word salad such as, "I don't think the word is overrated, I just think it's underrated to actually use the words for what they mean. Its overrated to use the word overrated when what you mean is that you don't like something." instead of actually talking to me like a person.

I did actually talk to you like a person. I talked to you like I talk to someone who is being hostile and condescending, which you are, but I talked to you like a person. I didn't just give you a word salad, and saying I did furthers my feeling that this conversation hasn't been in good faith.
If we go with your assertion that "overrated" = bad/disliking, then that makes perfect sense. It's only a word salad because that assertion is wrong. I used that "word salad" to explain as an example.

No, your comment ended with the aforementioned word salad and then you edited in normal language after I had already responded.

I edit almost all my commens after I post them, to make the language clearer, which I, for some reason, find much easier after posting. However I stopped adding to the comments after you responded and each example was present before you responded. I've deleted a few sentences, fixed some formatting and added one byline after your response (and then this sentence here now).

Now that you have edited your comments to include coherent sentences, I understand what your argument is now.

You're being very hostile and condescending and I do not understand why. The responses were coherent before you responded as well. You've gotten your questions answered, but you choose to pretend you haven't in order to further an argument which you instill with increasingly aggressive language. I feel as though quite a lot of unfounded negativity is being projected onto me, and I do not appreciate it. I think you should log off.
I'm not going to read the rest of your response, because I can see you're going to continue this shitty behaviour.

[–] booty@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wait so I wrote out a long, thorough, serious comment laying out in good faith everything I understood about the conversation, our inability to understand each other, and what I was trying to get across in the first place and then went to bed. And then you come buy and go "I'm not reading all that, touch grass smuglord " and apparently I'm the one who gets my comment removed for "bad faith" lmao

god the mods on this site fucking suck dude

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah that's definitely what happened.
Being reductive about the other persons position, ignoring arguments and being a hostile and condescending asshole is how you have a good faith discussion. I'm definitely the one who started pulling smuglord stuff, I'm not at all responding in kind. You are a victim of unreasonable modding and a victim of me being super duper mean for no reason at all. You're just a widdle guy asking good faith questions.

I'm disappointed honestly. I didn't want to block you because I enjoy a lot of what you post, but this is just getting too much. Own up to being an asshole or at the very least engage with the basic reality that I have a very good reason not to think of this as a "good faith discussion" due to the reasons I've already given you. It sucks that you suck this much. Blocked and also cum