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I actually like a lot of classic rock (yes even Hotel California, that solo kicks ass) but there is a lot of bad classic rock too. What do you think the worst classic rock song is? What is the most overrated band or artist? I think Supertramp is mid at best, but Bob Seeger is truly dreadful.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Genre is always messy, tbh. It's the sort of thing that looks perfectly sensible from a distance but begins to break down almost instantaneously upon closer scrutiny. To get a little philosophical about it, it relies on the emphasis of commonality by flattening or ignoring difference. Even going by the stuff that basically everybody agrees is classic rock like say, The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, how much do they have in common really? Is it more salient than their many differences?

That said while genre is a fiction ultimately, it should be a useful fiction. And classification by by perceived stylistic similarities, influences or artistic worldviews is more useful than simply lumping together every "rock" (itself a problematic genre) act prior to 1994

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your answer! What you're saying makes a lot of sense, but to speak to the "utility": If this classification of "classic rock" has always been around and always meant some variation of "rock from a previous era" then doesn't that mean there is some inherent utility, since it keeps showing up? Like all genres are incredibly vague and vibes-based where the qualifications don't really matter, because we make exceptions anyway, then a genre that's more or less only based on age seems pretty straightforward.
It's not really something there's an "objective" answer to, but I appreciate your insights and am curious about your thoughts.

[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if this classification of "classic rock" has always been around and always meant some variation of "rock from a previous era"

That's the thing, it hasn't always been around. The rock of the previous era like Elvis and Little Richard, was not called classic rock at the time, and generally isn't considered classic rock even now. It's considered rock and roll specifically

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you for your response and sorry, "always" was hyperbolic, but it's a genre I remember from at least the early 00's and back then it already seemed to be a very common thing. So it's been around for a few decades at least, and thru those decades what has been included in the genre has slowly expanded.
If we agree that more or less for as long as the genre has been around, there has been a tendency to include more and more bands based on the criteria of age, I guess wether or not one thinks it has utility essentially boils down to how we view language or something. I'm not really big into philosophy, but I think there's a bunch of those guys talking about that kinda stuff