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submitted 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) by QuillQuote@hexbear.net to c/main@hexbear.net

Stuff like "stupid, idiot, moron, dumb," you know the ones. If you’re insulting someone for their shitty garbage beliefs and all you can manage to come up with is ways to insult their intelligence, appearance, or other aspect about them that has nothing to do with their cruelty and shittyness, you should maybe reevaluate.

Just saw a thread on here where a user was stubbornly refusing to adjust their language when another user politely pointed out that it was harmful to our comrades as well, and the person refusing was massively upvoted and the comrade trying to explain why it was harmful was downvoted. Thought we were better than that

I'm not calling anyone out, just wanted to make a post explaining my feelings on it and that when stuff like that happens (not the intelligence based insults, I know its hard to switch, but getting insulted for asking people to avoid them) it hurts and makes me feel less welcome here </3

Using words like “You’re being ignorant” or “That’s a cruel belief” is actually more effective than just going “lmao idiot”.

If those are the words you actually mean to convey I'd say use them instead :)

Edit: if the reception this post got isn't a good proof that this is something this community needs to grapple with, I don't know what is.

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[-] Uther_Pendragon@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

This post should be accepted with minimal controversy. Many lefty spaces on reddit that I was in first before I found CTH (Rip) already had rules in place to prevent ableist and other such insults - sure, it seemed a bit weird to me, accustomed to using them daily, but with little effort and some time I almost completely removed them from my vocabulary.

Strive to be better, friends, we're all in this together.

[-] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Strive to be better, friends, we’re all in this together.

Exactly! Thanks comrade :)

When I first found this community one of the first things I saw was the line “To each according to their need, from each according to their ability.” I cried after seeing that quote and reading the comments of people discussing it. I’m neurodivergent. I have Autism and ADHD, and pretty much until I found this place and leftism in general hated myself and was crushed under my own ableism and brain worms. If I couldn't understand something simple everyone else could it must be because I'm just stupid, if I couldn't do something others could it's because I'm a failure.

So, seeing this was pretty much the first time I felt like I was allowed to exist, that it was okay there were things I sucked at. That it’s not that I am bad, but that the expectations of hellworld are. That I didn’t have to punish myself for this ‘failure.’ It’s one of the most pivotal moments of my short life, without a doubt.

[-] astigmatic@hexbear.net 0 points 4 years ago

to each according to their need and from each according to their ability holds true and some of us occasionally calling people stupid still has nothing to do with you

[-] QuillQuote@hexbear.net 1 points 4 years ago

Almost like it was a tangent and not me saying that this proves you shouldn't use intelligence based insults

You're just going through this whole thread looking for opportunities to jab me, wth

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