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Jocks arent an opressed group lol please calm down. Yes athletes have other hobbies and are whole humans. Im talking about cultural issues not individuals. A lot of these issues come from parents and coaches anyway.
And futhermore I'm not talking about professional athletes im talking about sports for kids. I lived in predominatly white areas so the kids who picked on me for sucking at sports were all white and my latent dislike of people that remind me too much of my bullies due to my trauma is directed based on that (ie like, a black pro athlete has never triggered that once in my life lol). I actually have similar feelings about letting go of bitterness towards bullies for various reasons i wont get into. But i learned the hard way when i tried to impose that on others that telling people how to deal with their trauma is not right and they dont have to forgive if they dont want to.
Team sports are demonstrably a bad idea for an uncordinated autistic kid like me. I become a load to the team and it doesnt work for anyone. The other kids hate me for dragging then down. Put those kids in something individual like martial arts, gymnastics, dance, even track would work.
And idk the fact that team sports for kids (and college sports to an extent too) have serious cultural issues is well documented i dont think i should even have to explain like its demonstrably true and theres mountains of evidence.
You are entitled to dislike and not forgive people that traumatized you. Maybe someday you can consider your personal experience is not representative of an incredibly large and diverse group of people from all over the world.
Jocks weren't even my main issue in school really. Team sports themselves were bullying central but like. In highschool a lot of the football kids were nice to me. Not all my bullies were athletic. My experiance with bullying defied the stereotypes shown in movies in many ways!
This isnt about that. its about the well documented problems with athletic programs for kids that exist right now. Is my experience universal? No, because not every kid is an uncoordinated autistic kid with negative athletic ability lol. But it is pretty fucking common and other people in this thread have talked about it.
Those need to be fixed. The fix isnt abolishing sports programs obviously. But there does need to be cultural change. Because until there is theres going to be a lot of disabled kids going through traumatic experiences.
Like idk I dont get your reaction here like do you think my solution is to abolish sports? The only ones I'd even consider that for are golf for environmental reasons and even then I'm fine with driving ranges and mini golf. Others have said abolish american football (gridiron) but I'm not even sure i'n behind that. Though there are serious reforms that have to be made for contact sports so kids because of concussions and shit. But sports that aren't even high contact like basketball and soccer? Totally fine with me lol. I'm not trying to abolish them. I'm trying to make reforms to the culture surrounding them. Toxic sports parents, shitty abusive coaches, the bullying culture, the way many schools are biased towards athletes, ect ect ect.