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So his son was being investigated for making threats to shoot up the school and he decided that the best gift was a gun that could allow his son to act on those threats.
Charging him in connection with the shooting seems appropriate.
"Who could have seen this coming?" -the father probably
I bet physical and/or verbal abuse was abundant in that household, probably spousal abuse as well, up to and including sexual and financial.
No sexual abuse reported, but everything else, yeah.
More red flags than a May Day Parade, like usual.
People don't agree with what I'm going to say, but nonconsensual *nonmonogamous sexual relationships are physically and emotionally abusive. Physically because they potentially expose the non-consenting to disease, and death by disease. Emotionally and actually financially, because of gaslighting, withholding, gaslighting. And even with laws on the books, all abuse is underreported, and then when it is, there's the victim blaming mentality, from report to trial, if it makes it that far. *Autocorrect
What are you on about
Reality.
What is the relevance?
The comment to which I responded.
I don't see where it's relevant to that comment. It seems so "A HUMAN HEAD WEIGHS EIGHT POUNDS" in timing.
Yes, so irrelevant to identify various forms of sexual abuse in a comment that says it wasn't reported. Thanks so much for pointing that out.
Yes, it's completely irrelevant when:
And your previous comment:
It's fucking weird.
And your use of non-consentual non-monogamy instead of saying, you know, cheating.
People know what sexual abuse is, we don't need your weird attempt at clarification.
One thing I've noticed is people seldom attack solid points unless they feel threatened by them. In a society that is still highly patriarchal and hierarchical, I think it's especially relevant to define sexual abuse, especially where the law doesn't yet recognize it. For hundreds of years, corporal punishment wasn't legally abuse, either. And I did say cheating, that you didn't like the specific terminology is your prerogative, as is your disagreement.
Thanks for sharing, enjoy your day/night.
You have no "solid point", you are making shit up.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5958351/
ETA title: Open Relationships, Nonconsensual Nonmonogamy, and Monogamy Among U.S. Adults: Findings from the 2012 National Survey of Sexual Health and Behavior
Are you writing an academic paper?
There was no report or sexual abuse, it's fucking weird you keep talking about it.
Thank you!
ETA: I'm honored to be weird in that I take the time and trouble to educate people who may be being abused, rather than the the kind of weird that's so heavily invested in down voting an educational comment that less abuse victims would see it. The last kind of weird is the kind of weird that reminds me of, "they let you do it!" And "binders of women!" The kind of weird that suggests someone is uncomfortable with these kinds of abuse being highlighted.
Are you saying sexual abuse (as you define in your comment) WAS reported? I’m confused why you’re defining it here.
???
Sorry. That was my original comment, I thought you saw it. Under reported. Abuse is underreported. I'm not saying it happened or didn't, but as the person to whom I was replying noted, s bunch of other red flags were prevalent. Sometimes, for those intentionally or intentionally unaware, red flags simply don't register; especially in heavily patriarchal Bible Belt cultures in the USA. Even in France, where that old man brought in 51 men to sexually abuse his wife, because he said, "she's my wife, I do with her as I please."
Ok, it sounded like you were saying you had some additional information that there was sexual abuse (like he was a known cheater or something). You’re just saying it’s possible even if it was not reported. Fair enough, the guy sounds absolutely wretched and probably doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
He deserves due process. It's up to the victims and legal people, from enforcement to prosecution to the court, whether or not he gets it.
So you are making wild accusations with no proof?
I bet Mave has cp and likes touching kids.
See how ridiculous that looks and sounds?
And what proof do you have of this? If you have any sources please link them.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/signs-of-domestic-abuse-5209419
Cheating is sexual abuse. Anything that does not include noncorerced consent is sexual abuse. It is the partner's emotional, physical health and life at risk.
https://www.verywellhealth.com/signs-of-domestic-abuse-5209419 notice the wheel.
It's passive aggressive and it is abusive. If that triggers a cheater, perhaps they should seek a therapist.
I am a survivor and thriver after child abuse and domestic abuse. It was once legal to beat wives as long as the stick wasn't bigger around than a thumb. It was abusive. It is legal to emotionally abuse people. It is abusive. Spousal rape was once legal. It is abusive. Owning other humans was once legal. It is abusive.
ETA: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/braving-hope/202401/5-things-we-get-wrong-about-cheating
So you actually have zero proof that the guy in this article is an abuser?
What? Please copy and paste where I said that. "I bet". I also didn't say "guy," .I thought you were asking for proof of what I said to Jordanlund, since those with problems were you know, relying to that specific comment. I saw the comment users replied to. Nothing more and nothing less.
You appear to have accidentally responded to a different thread of comments. I mean this genuinely and not sarcastically.
Thanks so much for telling me! That's weird, because when I clicked the reply, I responded in the thread I was shown. I wonder if this is some weird update issue with my device or whatever. Maybe it would behoove all of us to assume good faith, even where malice or obstinacy seems obvious.
Thanks again.
You must have a very exciting betting wallet. I usually just got for one thing rather than spray hedge bets.on all the things I can basrlessly assume. Also, you didn't cover race or politics in there.
Yup they can go the same route as the Oxford, MI shooter and charge the parents. They got 10 years, if more parents got charged parents might wise up. This sounds 100% the exact same situation. Oxford kids parents told him not to get caught next time when he was in trouble for looking at ammunition during school.
Would being charged with crimes your child commits stop dumb fucks from reproducing?
I'd be satisfied if it stopped dumb fucks from buying guns for their dumb fuck kids that already threatened to shoot their classmates.
Daddy is an accessory here. I'm glad he's being charged.
Nah, the kids are rarely intentional when you're that stupid.
Still I'm willing to give it a shot! Hey-O!
Nope. But it might make em think twice before taking their under-6-yr old kids to a bar and shove an iPad in their face while mommy and/or daddy gets sloshed.
No. They aren't thinking the potential long term cost of their own actions, let alone the knock-on effects caused by the actions of their unexamined actions.
It'll stop him from reproducing again
Yeah, this is where I have issue. I grew up around guns and hunting. When I passed my safe hunters I got my first 12 gage shotgun and then got a 410 later that year along with a 50 cal black powder rifle and the. Get a few AR’s and AK/SKS’s along the way. I grew up respecting them and it was a normal part of life. People had gun racks in their trucks with guns in them in high school at the time.
But this kid obviously had issues and they should have been in a safe away from him. I do think holding parents liable with start changing things slowly. I wish it was an over night change but we need to do it more often
I absolutely don't see an accessory charge at minimum as being too far of a stretch either. Lock both of them up.