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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by EABOD25@lemm.ee to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don't actually think everyone there is insane. I don't care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It's not going to scare me to take this down

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[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Childish? Kinda. Insane? No.

There are three relevant things to say about hexbear.

1. It is not a serious instance. Or at least not completely serious; they're mostly there for memes, funposting, "I know that feel" etc.

So they're less like the meeting room of a communist party than like the bar where those communists hang out and drink beer, after the meeting is over.

I feel like this is often misinterpreted, as HB users say something that is mostly a taunt and others interpret as actual argumentation. And it also tends to attract younger users, who... well, behave like young people?

2. Even if not a serious instance, they're serious about their views. Your typical HB user is communist, antifa, vegan, anti-cop, and interprets things in a very specific way. They're rather transparent about it.

And, because of #1, they aren't really willing to spend their time entertaining anyone's counterpoints. It'll be interpreted as sealioning or similar.

3. Hexbear was already its own thing before federation. As such it developed social norms that often conflict with the norms typically found in the rest of the Threadiverse (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed etc.)

For example, even if Lemmy as a whole is prone to intrusive political discussions, HB users tend to do it far more. Because they're used to an environment where this is typically taken as OK.


When it comes to dealing with HB users here, my advice is the exact same as dealing with other users:

  • if you don't like what someone is saying (because it's idiotic, obstrusive, or whatever), block the person for some peace of mind.
  • if you're consistently uninterested on the content coming from an instance, block the instance.
[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 24 points 1 week ago

Thank you for saying this in a more detailed way than I have been. This is exactly right. They built their own leftist haven and became a whole culture of their own, and then became federated. There is bound to be an initial clash, but honestly I think most of the people who hate on them never gave them a chance. All they saw were the shitposts and the in-jokes and you closed the door.

When it comes to dealing with HB users here, my advice is the exact same as dealing with other users

  • if you don't like what someone is saying (because it's idiotic, obstrusive, or whatever), block the person for some peace of mind.

  • if you're consistently uninterested on the content coming from an instance, block the instance.

I see a lot of leftists (and leaning leftists), even on .world, who would be better off interacting with the users there (maybe blocking the shitposting comms). And outside of those most-seen comms (chapotraphouse and dunk_tank), there is genuine conversation and less shit talking and in-jokes. I believe, with more instances coming in that are federated with them (mine, .ml, and lem.ee? are a couple), some of the Hex-natives are understanding how to interact with curious left-leaning people with unintentionally wrong-headed ideas.

Downvote me all you want, I stand by Hexbear. o7

[-] TraitorToAmerica@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

I'm curious about this, do you hold the same opinion about lemmygrad?

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

That is one of the few instances my instance is defederated from, so I haven’t had much interaction with them. I can speak about Hexbear because I see their posts and interact with them.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Lemmygrad.ml is a "serious" community of Marxist-Leninists, and are Dengists as well (or at least largely sympathetic towards Deng).

Hexbear is Left-Unity, and more of a community focused instance.

The views are largely similar, but the tone and goals of each instance are different.

[-] TraitorToAmerica@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

well, views are pretty much the same. typically, grad users shitpost less and are less active as a whole but are more sectatarian because the rules of the instance allow for it, although there really isn't that much sectarianism on there, the comm with the most sectatarinsm "shitultrassay" has only 20 posts in the last six months, whereas the equivalent comm for dunking on social and conservative liberals has over 100 posts in the last month alone

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