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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/41907712

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 79 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Less plastic being manufactured? Sounds good to me. :)

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Seriously. Let’s light a fire under this trend. I will spend twice as much on a thing if it’s metal instead of plastic.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

While we're at it, let's get back to all metal phones! Screw this glass back shit.

For the "Wireless" charging people:

It's a gimmick, nothing of value is lost

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago

“All right team this is the single most dropped item in the history of mankind we need to make this thing tough what are we gonna manufacture the backing out of?”

“Glass?”

“…….Brilliant!! You’ve got upper management written all over you, Jacobs!”

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wireless charging rocks, dude

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I know it's counter to what the thread is saying but I really miss plastic phones. They allowed for wireless charging and don't shatter so easily. Lumias had amazing designs and were built like a brick.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Likely far more energy and pollution needed to manufacture this though so overall a loss for the earth.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But most steel is recycled and most plastic is not.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You still need a lot of energy to recycle steel. Less than mining by far but still a lot.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 15 points 3 months ago

In a sustainable world, energy can and should be cheaper than raw materials. We are only harvesting a tiny fraction of the solar energy hitting the earth, to say nothing of wind and geothermal power. Rolling out more renewables and energy storage and using some of the surplus power to switch from extracting new resources to recycling our waste would greatly lower our footprint.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

But compared to plastic from virgin fossil fuels?

We as a society are going to need memory cards.

What do you think they should be made out of?

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

Sorry, that’s not Kosher.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Need to be examined on e case by case basis but plastic often comes out aheadi

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

If you penny pinch and don’t want to pay the environmental cost, sure plastic might come out cheaper.

But when you take into account the triple bottom line, plastic comes out behind.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Plastic in a landfill is a lot less harmful than co2 in the atmosphere.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why you use renewable green energy.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 3 months ago

Sure but do you have any proof they are doing that? some places are really good and others really bad. Overall my guess is iron is still worse than plastic but there are exceptions.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Is anyone going to bother recycling the one gram of metal in this card though?

[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Energy needs can be met and shouldn't be an argument for using plastic.

The pollution could be more dependending on how you look at that statement, but making something without plastic results in less plastic pollution and you can't claim that to be an overall loss for the earth.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

You can swap out centralized energy sources (relatively speaking) overnight as greener sources become cheaper/more available compared to retooling whole industries away from plastic

It's the same thing with electric cars, yea it might plug in now to a dirty energy source, but that energy source could be a green energy source tomorrow without you ever knowing and importantly not having to buy a new car or change any other infrastructure to take advantage of it

A power line is a power line, it doesn't care if the electricity going through it was derived from a dirty power plant or solar or nuclear

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I respect the sentiment, but is the amount of plastic in an SD card really that significant? There's probably more in just the packaging alone.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is more like taking the first step, getting distracted by a cool bug, finding an interesting stick, and going home to show Mum your cool stick.

An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It's just not an issue.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

An SD card lasts for years, and the amount of plastic in one is negligible. It’s just not an issue.

Hark! The ghosts of countless generations of short-sighted polluters cry out in complacent, rationalizing unison!

It's not about expecting one model of memory card to save the Earth. It's about moving away from needless production of toxic materials, everywhere.

And if you don't care, nobody's going to force you to read The Lorax, but please don't go around shitting on people's appreciation for even the small things.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Worrying about the plastic in an SD card just feels like bike-shedding to me, but keep up the good fight, I guess.

[–] UnityDevice@startrek.website 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah it's the equivalent of finding two dollars on the ground and getting excited because at this rate you'll be a billionaire soon enough. There's less than 2g of plastic in an SD card - the buttons on your shirt probably weigh more.

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Any reduction in plastic is a good thing.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -1 points 3 months ago

Very nuanced view of the world you have.