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[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

There's a lot of knowledge drain in republican states. People who go to university and lean left usually move out of the state, for 1. Being closer to like minded people 2. Lots of jobs and opportunities exist purely in cities

Basically people dont usually stay in red states if they lean blue

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And then nobody wants to move back. At best you've got some purple cities like Austin starting to shift blue, but even then. I was in Austin for a few days this spring. I was infatuated. Started looking at home listings. Then I realized I'd be living in Texas. Who the hell wants that?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

People who go to university and lean left usually move out of the state

That's as much a part of the employment prospects as anything. States with large industrial and commercial centers tend to end up with the old "Blueberries in the Tomato Soup" effect. Austin, Houston, and increasingly Dallas in Texas, for instance. Atlanta in Georgia. Tampa and Tallahassee in Florida.

Basically people dont usually stay in red states if they lean blue

Some of the most populous states in the country still tilt red. Florida and Texas most notably, but Pennsylvania and Ohio and Georgia and North Carolina as well.

If the state has a lucrative industry, people move there regardless of the prevailing state ideology. That's one thing Republicans do tend to get right. Attracting big corporate HQs to your state can make up for a lot of your shitty revanchist social policies.

[-] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago

Texas is gerrymandered to shit, and employs pretty nasty voter suppression tactics in populous (see: blue) counties by having very few polling stations per capita in those areas and making it a crime to give water/food to people waiting in line to vote. Big Texas cities are blue for the most part (maybe a few exceptions in the DFW area)

If you look at pretty much any of the cities within Texas on the latest map, you can see that they consolidate the core of the city into one or two solid blobs, then split the rest out to be diluted by rural areas. See Dallas/Tarrant County, Travis County, Bexar County, and Harris County for the most obvious cases of these.

https://redistricting.capitol.texas.gov/docs/88th_Senate_Tabloid_2024_05_20.pdf

On a population level, Texas is basically a blue state held hostage by a red state administration.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

On a population level, Texas is basically a blue state held hostage by a red state administration.

The State Senate is absolutely gerrymandered to shit, without a doubt. But from a gross popular perspective, Texas consistently turns out a healthy majority of conservative voters. We saw this play out after 2018, when Abbott's campaign staff took to their own aggressive GOTV operations (along with assorted nasty tricks in blue urban centers). The GOP was turning out north of 6M Republican voters in 2020 and north of 4.4M in 2022. This is substantially more than the 2.6M they were managing going back to 2014 and before.

Beto's thesis for winning in 2018 was interesting, and drastically increasing the Dem base in the years since has been great for municipal Dems. But the idea that Texas is a blue state given the 10-15 pt margins Republicans continue to win with in years with double the turnout of historical races really requires you to ignore all the Central and West Texas right-wingers who have been showing up in droves over the last ten years.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah. And the problem is that that won't change unless blue people move outside the cities and into the rural areas. And most have absolutely no desire to do so. Those that do, have no desire to be politically isolated.

[-] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You're telling me that the solution to systemic voter suppression is a massive urban exodus to spread out the voting population until it's homogenous?

That's the solution, instead of I dunno, forcing the Texas government to stop suppressing voters?

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well yeah, do that too. But as long as we're weighing votes based on land, Texas will remain a red state.

Fixing voter suppression tactics might help federal elections. Probably just Senate, actually. But state office elections...there are far more red counties and towns than there are blue cities and towns. And somehow that matters.

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