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Forgot what made me think about this topic but I've been considering this for a week or two... Curious what you all think.

When I mean "hardest" "video game", I mean whatever game that you find objectively more difficult than all other ones on the market, as long as it's a video game. I guess exposure to different genres/types of games can influence the answer to this question a lot so... Hence I was curious about your rationale.

I have a pretty solid answer & rationale but I guess I shouldn't share that in the main post to bias results...

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Just try to play Dwarf Fortress, and you'll drop any other opinion on this subject. Especially the ASCII version of the game, not the fancy graphical one.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Adventure Mode is even more difficult within Dwarf Fortress: I once had a fresh character start in a village and he died from blood loss while I was grinding levels by wrestling salmon in a nearby river, and it bit my characters toe off.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

That's the kind of stories only DF writes. No other game comes even close to this.

I have to admit that I have never done adventure mode, and can't do it now as I am to busy with my other hobbies to play anything but a quick round of solitaire. But DF will always hold a special place in my heart, and I hope I can one day play the courage 1.0 version of it.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't speak for ASCII mode. But DF is not hard, once you learn the game, unless you specifically go looking for a challenge.

The only real difficulty is just how much there is to learn about the game.

If you build defenses, never dig too deeply, and learn the basics of keeping your dwarves happy, you could play a fortress for hundreds of in game years. But that would get boring.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 4 points 1 month ago

Having played a lot of Dwarf fortress in ascii mode as well as with tilesets, I agree with you. It's not especially difficult to make a successful fortress. However the game is definitely obtuse, even more so with the ascii graphics. Just figuring out what is happening on the screen and which combination of buttons to press to do what you want is quite difficult.

The steam release does some work to remedy the situation though.

[–] hitagi@ani.social 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I tried to get into this game because I like Rimworld but damn is it so hard to learn. I couldn't even get past the tutorial.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Hey, at least there is a tutorial. When I started, there wasn't.