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[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He already said capitalists, state capitalism is still capitalism, no matter if you call it communism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The USSR was Socialist, what on Earth are you talking about?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Calling something state capitalist when capitalism heavily relies on the state by default shows you need to hit the books on how capitalism actually functions.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Calling something state capitalist when capitalism heavily relies on the state by default

I have no idea what you are trying to say with this, but perhaps you should look things up before pompously trying to diss people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Perhaps you should read theory. The USSR was State Capitalist with respect to the NEP, but was Socialist for its entire existence

People's theory is just fine. The problem for you is that they kept reading theory that was written after thr 1970s.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can only read 2 pages from what you linked, and am not paying 40 dollars to read the rest, certainly not when they already display a gross oversimplification and anti-Marxist definition of Capitalism (critically leaving out competition, Capital accumulation, and so forth), and therefore take a vulgar revisionist stance. There's no analysis of class dynamics, just an over-reliance on the presense of Wage Labor.

Please read theory, I can make recommendations for the basics if you'd like.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago