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[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

With sufficient voltage, everything is a conductor.

With insufficient voltage, everything is an insulator.

Neither may be conducive to those roles, but everything has some conductivity and some resistance (super conductors being a possible exception).

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How about in vacuum? Do you get fancy arcs or glows or what?

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

In typical conditions, an electrical arc forms when the electric field strength exceeds the dielectric strength of the medium (like air). In a vacuum, there is no medium to ionize, which theoretically makes it difficult for an arc to form. However, electricity can still arc in a vacuum under certain conditions, such as when high voltages are involved or when the electrodes are extremely close together.

https://peacepower.ca/faqs/can-electricity-arc-in-a-vacuum#%3A%7E%3Atext=In+typical+conditions%2C+an+electrical%2Celectrodes+are+extremely+close+together.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I was thinking neon lights. I mean that's basically an arc, just spread out. I think I heard that there's a glow in vacuum too, just not as nice as with neon.

[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

Well, a quick search turned up this: Vacuum Arc

However, like the above comment, it seems to refer to freeing electrons from the conducts, so, IMHO, you no longer have a vacuum.

If you could somehow maintain a perfect vacuum; I wonder how this concept Virtual particle would come into play (or if it would at all).

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

High frequency! It Mega hurtz!

Low frequency! It kill a hurtz!

Ultra high frequency! It giga hurtz!

Pretty much any high voltage high frequency thing really hurtz. It'll kill you at different rates but it'll hurt the entire time.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Oh hey, I design those. Though I design them so that there's an incredibly low risk they do that.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Boorring, we want sparks ✨️

...and DEATH

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 7 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I'll see what I can fit into my next design

[–] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Still the path of least resistance

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Or is it the path of most convenience? 🤷‍♀️

[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like a mad scientist cackling a maniacal laugh.

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 2 points 19 hours ago

It's like one of those lichtenburg patterns, except in air.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Everything is a wire if the voltage is high enough.

Every machine is a smoke machine if you use it wrong enough.

[–] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was interviewed for a position where lady handed me a pen and asked if it was a conductor.

I replied: "if the voltage is high enough, yea. She scoffed. Needless to say, I didn't get the job.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 27 points 1 day ago

Honestly I think you gave the experienced adult answer to what was a high school or even middle school science question.

[–] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that just sounds like a weird interview.

"you're qualified for this position if, and only if, you can answer a useless question with only a rudimentary understanding of the subject and no critical thought"

if true, you dodged a bullet

[–] big_fat_fluffy@leminal.space 2 points 19 hours ago

Assuming that you can draw a triangle from any 3 lines, draw a triangle from lines of length 1, 2 and 3

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Oi! As an engineer I worked damn hard to trap that magic smoke in the machine only for you to let it out and try perfectly good components. Treat your machines with respect, they're getting smarter by the day and they're forgetting less and less!

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 36 points 1 day ago

When you cast Chain Lightning at nothing.

[–] Churlish_Witness@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago
[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 116 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

This is particularly applicable around downed power cables. Do NOT approach. You don't need to touch it to become the wire.

For example: in LA right now

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago

dO nOT toUch the DoWn wIres uuuum I have MY RIGHTS to turn myself into a gas station hotdogs thankyouverymuch

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You have to keep in mind that the resistance from one foot to your other is going to be less than dry earth between your strides. This means if you are walking toward a downed power line, you may inadvertently walk within its path to its ground and the voltage could actually travel through you.

https://youtu.be/7BbGzTqTNxc

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pshaw, even at LV, it's a lay theory that is, at best, vastly incomplete and, at worst, demonstrably false.

Electricity will flow through all paths, the most electricity will flow down the path of the least resistance.

That arc is going up because the plasma is hot and the air is turbulent.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, maybe it needs a Hedberg-ism to get it across to people.

Electricity takes the path of least resistance. It takes the other paths, but it takes the least resistance path too.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem I have with it is that it gives a false sense of security and how the world works. Most people think lightning rods attract the lightning and direct it into the ground because of this. 1/3 of the world has 220v and 110v connected directly into their showerhead without any idea why they don't die from it.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago

Agreed, and I think there are tons of hazards out there that would be mitigated if more people cared to learn how the world works.

But when it comes to energy in general and electricity in particular, 10x it. Typically energy is more useful when it’s more concentrated, and any potent energy source that can do a useful type of work can also do a thousand destructive types of “work.”

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything is wire if the voltage is high enough

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[–] IDew@lemm.ee 124 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 114 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Low voltage: "Oh no, there is a tiny spot of corrosion on the contact surface, I think I need to lie down..."

High voltage: (rips line of coke) "I'M GONNA MAKE MY OWN WIRES WITH BLACKJACK AND HOOKERS!"

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[–] unbanshee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think that still is actually from this video of a switch opening. Sound on, it's real neat.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I love how the 60Hz AC coursing through the plasma (?) can be heard at a safe distance. It really conveys just how much energy is in that arc.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

That’s fascinating!

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 day ago (18 children)

"it's current not voltage that kills you"

High voltage: "Por que no los dos?"

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

High voltage: “hey bestie, how would you like a ✨️new and improved ✨️ nervous system?”

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[–] elekitty@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

modern metal band logos are really getting out of hand smh

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (5 children)

“Danger! Danger! High voltage.

When we touch, when we kiss”

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Its funny because the arc looks a bit like Louise Belcher laughing maniacally

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't know too much about HV, but I thought that even the crazy path shown in the picture was still the path of least resistance. Is that wrong?

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Dielectric breakdown, literally carving its own path of least resistance through the air.

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