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The Supreme Court's hearing of Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton signals potential limits on First Amendment protections for online pornography.

The case involves a Texas law mandating age verification for websites with "sexual material harmful to minors," challenging the 2004 Ashcroft v. ACLU precedent, which struck down similar laws under strict scrutiny.

Justices, citing the inadequacy of modern filtering tools, seemed inclined to weaken free speech protections, exploring standards like intermediate scrutiny.

The ruling could reshape online speech regulations, leaving adults’ access to sexual content uncertain while tightening restrictions for minors.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 34 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

You gotta be a really profoundly uncomfortable, nervous human being to think of sex as bad.

What an absolute sign of weakness.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 hours ago

Or, and hear me out on this one, you're a member of a group, like various other groups, that want to control every aspect of human lives, including sex, to bind them to our little group forever so we can control them even more?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 hours ago

You gotta be a really profoundly uncomfortable, nervous human being

That's an interesting way to say "religious".

Project2025 and it's evangelical backers are a major driver of this pridishness.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Kids are gonna start finding porn the old-fashioned way: randomly coming across discarded magazines at the park. That was my first experience.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 19 points 7 hours ago

Or torrents... It would be funny if this just ended up teaching new generations how to torrent.

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 13 points 8 hours ago

I think Epstein highlighted that there is a much bigger problem going on than some 15 year old looking up “mum gets railed by football team”.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)
[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

Ideally you wouldn't be using tor for clearweb sites but if you must I suppose that's an option, a VPN would be less detrimental to the tor network though, and is often both faster and more reliable from a user perspective.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If we're banning content harmful to children why dont we start with Capitalist propoganda and religious indoctrination :3

[–] Skymt@feddit.nu 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

And those brain washing shows on YouTube

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Both are accurate

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 45 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The vague threat of "think of the children maybe being exposed to sexual things" challenging our first amendment right but it becomes some huge debate if a woman is being harassed/stalked/threatened online.

**they are justififying destroying our rights for their feelings **

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago

they are justififying destroying our rights for their feelings

Well yeah, the P stands for Projection in the party of "facts don't care about your feelings."

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 71 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

So we can ban content that is claimed to be harmful to minors but not weapons that actually kill children...

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

Jfc when you put it that way

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Even in terms of speech, it's ridiculous to claim that boobs are more harmful than a social media diet of assholes claiming women or racial minorities aren't people.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago

Well yeah it's never really been about what they say it is

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

Close your eyes for just a moment and imagine the scales of Justice.

Imagine white kids on one side and brown kids on the other.

Why aren't the scales balanced?

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 127 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Notice how we're already asking past the sale with the tacit labeling of "sexual material harmful to minors," with the presupposed declaration that sexual material is automatically harmful to minors.

The all-consuming mission to look at boobies is essentially universal for all pubescent boys from about 12 all the way to the age of majority. This is well known, and none of us came off any the worse despite widespread availability of older brothers' back issues of Hustler, Usenet, dial-up BBS systems, and ultimately the world wide web.

If teens weren't naturally interested in sex where wouldn't been all them teenage pregnancies. Q.E.D.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 18 hours ago

This is an excellent observation.

We now no longer have the debate over whether or not this content is necessarily harmful to minors. It's now automatically bad, and the new framing is: shouldn't we ban bad things?

Should expect more of this kind of newspeak/doublespeak as the Trump years continue.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Just saying, the shit you can find on the Internet does not come even close to what Hustler was. There is instant access to all kinds of weird and fucked fetish shit that just wasn't accessible in the 90s and earlier.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 27 points 18 hours ago

Bizarre fetish shit was very much available in the 90s and earlier. It just wasn't in hustler or playboy.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There's a vid on archive.org of the Spice Channel that must have been off someone's VHS tape. It flickers a lot and is barely watchable, but I was curious what we were all missing back then.

Turns out, way more softcore than I was expecting. Slightly more hardcore than Skinamax at the time, but not by much.

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[–] passwordforgetter@lemmy.nz 17 points 15 hours ago

Free speech for pornographers, but instant IP/device ID ban if you criticise Israel online.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 49 points 19 hours ago

Get ready for the slippery slope. Anything conservatives don’t want you to see or read will be placed behind an “identify yourself” firewall.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 68 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

It’s just the first amendment.

[–] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Freedom of speech is so important it is literally the first thing they remembered to add in.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

They didn’t even mention individuals having the rights to own guns, but god damn they had to add that one to the second amendment through the courts.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

It does mention “the people” though.

I’ve always have trouble with this one. The second amendment is a big problem in this country, especially combined with our hatful culture. DC v Heller should have gone the other way because it would have saved lives and allowed some progress.

But when I read the amendment, to me it comes across very much like “the people have the right to guns so that the militia can be called to arms” and not just “the militia gets guns.”

The amendment is outdated and the framers could never have anticipated our current state, much less been in favor of it. Maybe they even misspoke and did only mean for the militia members to be able to keep their guns at home. But what they wrote sure reads to me like the conservatives want it to, at least as far as the individual right to own guns.

This is just an academic discussion anyway. These weapons are part of the personal identity of at least tens of millions of Americans, plus we have a fully Republican government incoming, plus the court that would have to do something about it is even more conservative and corrupt than before.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 14 hours ago

"A well regulated militia"

Back then that meant a gun group with regular training, any civillian in the militia could also own guns for private use

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 61 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Define "sexual material." What about the minors who get sexual gratification from Linux installation media repository mirrors?

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
sudo apt-get install boobies

sparky is not in sudoers file. This incident will be reported

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 36 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not a minor but WHO TOLD YOU ABOUT MY KINK?!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You can sudo mount and fork my box anytime....

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

To quote a former Supreme Court justice and asshole, "I know it when I see it."

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[–] minnow@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What's taught in schools: the parents should have a say! Don't let the government decide what to teach our kids!

Books in libraries and content on the internet: the government must step in and make certain content illegal!

Of course, fascists don't care if they're hypocritical. They say whatever gives them the most power in any situation, so calling out hypocrisy won't stop them. It's still good to do, though.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

some republicants cheering for the scotus ruling today will be scrambling to try to legislate around it tomorrow.. because their porn habits will get hacked and released.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 13 points 19 hours ago

Constitution smonchstitution. We don’t need rights where we’re going.

Buckle up!

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Soon they'll make sexual partners register with the state or straight up make premarital sex illegal. And anyone found breaking the law (i.e. women getting pregnant) will go to jail.

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