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[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People will never learn to not preorder games. I have no hope for humanity at this point.

[–] mustyOrange@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Queue the "internet people are a vocal minority" saying. Unfortunately, it really is true. How anyone can pre-order after fo76 is absolutely bonkers to me

[–] Ardiente@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They never learn do they ?

[–] Yrt@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Nope. And everybody will scream cause they payed 70 bucks for a broken game, just like Bethesda is known to produce.

Just keep looking at the list. Payday 3 is also there. A publisher known for maybe a worse dlc and microtransaction policy than EA with the Sims, but it seems that doesn't matter a bit.

[–] prof@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

My tactic of waiting a year until a newly released game is fully patched and grabbing it with a discount has yet to fail me.

[–] ngwoo@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Preordering is dumb, preordering in 2023 when it's 50/50 whether any given PC port is going to be a total mess is dumb

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like at least find out if the planets are any good first and not just 2000 procedurally generated flavors of bear asses to collect.

Hopefully there's a whole RPG game in there and those are just side stuff to muck around and get some loot.

[–] hallowlik@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like mods would liven those planets up, but even then, I’m still expecting starfield to be very buggy.

[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The only thing they showed as a quest there was collecting bear asses from generic dialog with a scientist (but possibly there's more to it) so that's not a great sign. I can live with bugginess but if the content isn't compelling why am I playing? if the content is compelling enough I'll deal with a lot of bugs.

and yeah I think there might be a lot of cool mods around adding content to spawn on these planets if the structure of the game allows it. It would allow modders to create smaller self contained one shots basically without worrying about how it all fits into the rest of the game world.

[–] ghostalmedia@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The people that preorder clearly aren’t listening

[–] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why are people advising against pre-ordering? Is Bethesda known for not meeting expected release dates?

[–] Nymphioxetine@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf5Uj4XIT1Y

Basically, preordering incentivizes companies to release games that are not finished. In general, companies will always maximize revenues while minimizing costs. If they can release a game that didn't cost them as much to produce (getting massive preorders through good marketing but pinching development and quality) then they absolutely will. look at any AAA released this year

[–] Forkk@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Why are people buying products that they can't even have until release day?

[–] crisisingot@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

No way am I going to pre-order a game in this era of half baked releases and especially not a game from Bethesda which is as well known for their rampant bugs as their compelling gameplay

[–] br3w0r@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

DON'T PREORDER SHIT YOU STUPID

[–] qwertzu@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Stop preordering omg

[–] Locrin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I don't really care that people throw away their money like this. Because I am now always looking forward to the always very entertaining youtube clips of how much off a disaster the lastet AAA videogame release is.

[–] teflocarbon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It looks good in the marketing (it always does) but we should all remember that it’s Bethesda making this. Then again, I can’t even name a developer that I would say “hell yeah, this is gonna be awesome!” at this point. The very sad state of the industry.

[–] squid@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Wish people would wait to see what the game is actually like rather than blindly trusting a corporation.. Consumerism sucks

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I don't get the appeal of preordering a game months before it comes out when there isn't even a discount for doing so. At least Steam has 2 hour returns, but why money upfront so far away from release?

[–] bbbutch@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

won't preorder, but i so do hope that it's gonna be good and worth the wait ...

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If this gets us another Internet Historian video on the fallout, then this is worth it.

  • Pun unintended.
[–] ash@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

His video was great. Not sure if anyone noticed when they were showcasing the game they were showing console games and cut off right before they fully showed F76 LMAO

[–] Bluebird@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I noticed that as well, made me laugh lol

[–] uzay@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Another proof for publishers that they only need big promises and nice trailers to sell their game, nevermind the state they ship it in

[–] Griseowulfin@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The funniest thing is seeing the rage from Star Citizen fanboys about all this. They keep saying "it'll be buggy and awful on release" like SC isn't already. I know with Bethesda, they'll fix it up and the modders will go wild with patches and add ins, delivering all the stuff Chris Roberts said they would. Meanwhile, I try and play Star Citizen and i've died or failed a mission due to glitches any time i've tried to play this past week.

[–] exu@feditown.com 1 points 1 year ago

Modders shouldn't have to fix Bethesda's mess. And I don't trust Bethesda.

[–] Zonkko@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I officially hate everyone who preorders digital games. There is absolutely no justification for it. If you preorder, youre the reason modern gaming sucks.

[–] UnhealthyPersona@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I literally don't get it either. "BuT It lEtS me DOwNlOaD iT iN AdVanCE" but like are you really that impatient you need it the second it's released? And before seeing if it's actually a good game or not?? It's like people have learned nothing from the constant shitty releases time and time again

[–] shadowfly@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

The game looks promising, from what i have seen.

Few questions remain: Will it dethrone Jedi Survivor as worst performing game? Will it surpass Redfall in it's emptyness? Does it have a chance fighting LOTR Gollum in "Most 2023ish game of the year"? Or will it truly be a Masterpiece? (Hint: Masterpieces don't get released in 2023).

We will find out at release. Together with those that preorderd.

[–] Cian@fedia.io 1 points 1 year ago

Stuff like this is the reason game companies continue to release unfinished games, they're breaking even before they even release. Stop pre-ordering games people!

[–] TheTrueLinuxDev@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if they can reasonably judge the game within the 2 hours frame for refund. (Some game now do a very long shader compilation that can eat 30 minutes of your time.) The tutorial/beginning stage of the game are usually the most polished, but the latter part of the game could become very hollow.

They are going to get themselves cyberpunk'd.

[–] EmergingDystopia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This have looks fabulous to me, but there's no way I'm preordering. I don't have a lot of experience with Bethesda, but I thought the overall picture painted was a pretty gorgeous one. Hopefully they can deliver. That being said, I just started playing Fallout76 about two weeks ago, so I don't mind waiting until they work sone things out. Overall though, what they are promising looks incredible. Probably too good to be true :)

[–] suckaduck@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SkillUp said it quite nicely; Never preorder, never ever preorder. And finally, never preorder.

[–] Silverhand@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I learned that from TotalBiscuit a long time ago.

[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well this is sad.

[–] makeitra1n@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Do not preorder ffs...

[–] pieceofcrazy@feddit.it 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't really get how people's problem with Bethesda is bugs and glitches, which are completely solvable, and not the writing that makes you want to remove some brain tissue from your skull so that it doesn't bother you that much

[–] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Id guess that 76 was a big catalyst in that.
Since it was an online game you couldn't load community patches,
so people where kinda forced to stare it in the face.

In addition to that, the perception of AAA games kinda shifted in general.

From Blockbusters with incredible production value, to overhyped and unfinished bug ridden messes.

So Bethesda gets lot more flak now for having so many bugs, even tho almost none are game breaking

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