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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

For home automation, Matter/Thread has the potential. We’ll see over the next five years, but yes market forces can make a new standard work

Reasons I’m hopeful

  • this is the first time major companies are involved: Apple, Google, Amazon agree
  • first time home automation hubs “just happen”, with the millions of people who have Echo, Google Home, Apple devices
  • small companies that dominate home automation seem to realize the problem of the market can’t reasonably expand without interoperability and ease of use

Matter/Thread is the new kid on the block. Will it be yet another home automation standard, or will it gradually replace the previous ones? We’ll see.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Matter/Thread

i still think IP based smart home kit is a mistake. The internet is already such a big vuln, we don't need a shit ton of garbage sitting on the network only making it more vulnerable.

communication standards like zwave, and zigbee, are preferable here. It looks like at least one of those supports it, but perhaps both will be protocol agnostic.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Think of Thread as Zigbee with an IPv6 stack. It’s a local communication standard but with a compatible protocol.

I was excited that my current phone has a Thread radio so it can be on the local network for presence and control. Unfortunately not supported yet.

I’m definitely worried about the recent Matter standard for internet access. They say it’s optional, but that capability is easily hijacked by unscrupulous vendors.

  • my thermostat has cloud functionality that I want, so I’m fine with the option of giving them internet access
  • my air purifier requires internet access to report back to a vendor-specific portal filled with advertising. I’m not ok with that tradeoff so don’t use any smart functionality.
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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

It just needs a good text editor, is all.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping

Fortunately I have added a few dozen gigabytes of RAM since that aphorism was popular, and today emacs barely ever swaps very much when I don't deserve it

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Small net protocols like Gemini, gopher, spartan, IPFS because they don't compete with the web instead they coexist as separate things.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 days ago

I see this one quoted a lot when discussing Lemmy communities migration/consolidation/split.

I don't think it really works that well for forums. Some communities have clearly taken over others (see !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone vs !196@lemmy.world recently). It's not standards competing, it's people going where the activity happens.

[–] Toes@ani.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chess, there's so many wonderful ways to play.

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[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago

I'd argue systemd is the opposite. It was so controversial that it made a bunch of init systems appear when before you had just good old sysV.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I was surprised to find that there are a ton of symbols that have sought to become the standard notation of sarcasm in text. I think we should really adopt one of those that are far more elegant than the "/s." /s Looks ugly as fuck.

[–] sga@lemmings.world 6 points 3 days ago (6 children)
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[–] callyral@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

how about this:


notei'm being sarcastic

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