Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.
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Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.
Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.
This seems like saying road construction makes driving objectively worse or security guards make a stadium venue objectively worse.
BACK IN MY DAY WE BROUGHT RIFLES TO GAME DAY TO TAUNT THE PLAYERS
Maybe their point is just privatisation or something.
For example a dns provider like cloudfare just could artificially make latency costs for servers that don't agree with something cloudfare does bigger, which would result in them being less likely to be displayed in a search result because a search engine would have IP adresses faster from other servers. This obviously depends on if a search engine makes dns requests or just provides hostnames for the end user.
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What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.
Single point of failure for the whole internet.
Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.
If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...
What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.
There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.
They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.
If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …
Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure
Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.
So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.
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We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.
There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn't actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism
Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.
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Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.
So it wasn't just me. Good to know.
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Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.
203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen
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"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."
Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken
Cloudflare is excellent, this post is nonsense.
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I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.
don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.
I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here...
Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it's subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are "nice". Wow.
Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.
To all the upstart website-havers: no, you probably don't actually need to use cloudflare
I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.
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