The number of times I had to ask "how can I tell where the file 'physically'" (I know) "lives" on the network when I took up work at a Windows shop, it was just baffling. And Win people couldn't understand what I was asking.

There's a location for this effing thing. I want to know where it is, really! How do I get that info?!

[–] glowing_hans@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 hours ago

Duel of the fates: \//\

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Shouldn’t the blade be green? I thought Luke wore all black in ROTJ when he got hos green lightsaber.

[–] MooseTheDog@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

File systems aren't even real.

[–] Sorgan71@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

at that point operating systems are also not real.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

What is this "real" concept anyway?

Adam Savage famously stated on Mythbusters "I reject your reality and substitute my own"

Sure, but is reality even real then? Is anything real?

Not that I meant to get all pop-philosophical on this beautiful Sunday morning, sorry about that.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

I, too, first heard this quote from Adam on Mythbusters as a child. But, I'm pretty sure I also heard it was said first by some philosopher.

I would later be informed that "some philosopher" was the 1984 film The Dungeon Master.

Only apparently that was not the first, and it was said in a 1974 episode of Doctor Who. Well, someone on Reddit said that, and linked to this WikiQuote page but on that page it also says it's from The Dungeon master.

So, I don't know what to believe any more, and I still hope it was actually an obscure lost quote of Rene Magritte or something because in my head it would just make sense.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yes

Interpretation of reality is individual

Reality itself is relative

But if it didn't exist we wouldn't be chatting about it right now

That's my reality anyway

What's yours?

[–] atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 64 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (13 children)

Fun fact, though: Linux is the only case-sensitive one.

Edit: I feel silly for forgetting that it's all about the choice of FS. If anyone needs anything from me, I'll be in the corner, coloring.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 9 hours ago

I once ran into a bug in an Arduino program where it wouldn't compile. The author blamed my "broken environment". Turned out, he had included "arduino.h" instead of the correct "Arduino.h".

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 50 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

From a technical standpoint, the windows NTFS filesystem is designed inherently case sensitive, just windows doesn't allow creating case sensitive files.

Connecting an NTFS drive to linux, you can create two separate files readme.txt and Readme.txt.

Using windows, you can see both files in the filesystem, but chances are most (if not all) software will struggle accessing both files, opening readme.txt might instead open Readme.txt or vice versa.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

You're correct. I once was trying to rename a file in Windows in a git repository that had a wrong capitalization. It was tricky.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 24 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Such a microsoft thing to do.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 8 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

NTFS was designed back in the mid 90s, when the plan was to have the single NT kernel with different subsystems on top of it, some of those layers (i.e. POSIX) needed case sensitivity while others (Win32 and OS/2) didn't.

It only looks odd because the sole remaining subsystem in use (Win32) barely makes use of any of the kernel features, like they're only just now enabling long file paths.

[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 12 points 11 hours ago

For a few years now, Windows has had the capability of marking certain directories as case-sensitive. So you can have a mixed-case-sensitivity filesystem experience now. Yeah. :/

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Although you can use case insensitive filesystems with Linux, and case sensitive filesystems with macOS. I believe the case sensitivity is a function of the specific filesystem

but yeah, practically, the root for Linux is always case sensitive, and APFS ~~ain't~~ is only if you ask it to be ( https://support.apple.com/lv-lv/guide/disk-utility/dsku19ed921c/mac ).

[–] paperplane@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

When case insensitivity is the default I always wonder how many apps unknowingly rely on that due to typos somewhere. I encountered this once while porting a Windows/macOS app to Linux that someone imported a module with the wrong case and nobody noticed

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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

As is right and proper.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 250 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This meme is way more clever than it should be

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Can you please explain? I've never used Mac and it's been a long time since I've properly used windows.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

File paths in Linux and Mac use / while Windows uses \

Take a look at the angle of the lightsabers.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Technically, Windows understands both / and \. I personally always use / just because it's easier to type that.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I never would've gotten that!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Like I said, way more clever than it should be. Props to the creator for sure.

[–] SorryQuick@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The lightsaber orientation is the same as the slash orientation

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Ha, neat!

[–] runeko@programming.dev 53 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Didn't realize until I read your comment. Thanks.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 35 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It's not something the Jedi would tell you.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 40 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Only a sith deals in absolute paths.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 38 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

I didn't realise until I read that comment, your comment and the other comment about slash direction.

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[–] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 94 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

I hate that I need to use escape characters when creating something for windows.

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[–] pelya@lemmy.world 54 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You can actually use / as a path separator on Windows in functions like fopen(), because it supports some ancient version of POSIX standard.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 30 points 19 hours ago

There used to be an undocumented setting in early versions of MS-DOS that would allow the setting of the command option character to something other than the slash, and if you did that, the slash automatically became the path separator. All you needed was SWITCHAR=- in your CONFIG.SYS and DOS was suddenly very Unix-y.

It was taken out after a while because, with the feature being undocumented, too many people didn't know about it and bits of software - especially batch files, would have been reliant on things being "wrong". The modern support for regular slash in API calls probably doesn't use any of the old SWITCHAR code, but it is, in some way, the spiritual descendant of that secret feature.

Here's an old blog that talks about it: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/archive/blogs/larryosterman/why-is-the-dos-path-character

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

Also the internet belongs on the left.

And really, Linux/macos could be reduced to "Unix" https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Unix_history-simple.svg

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