I just cannot get behind Bernie.
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I love Bernie and I admire his tenacity even at 83. But it is not nearly enough by a mile and we should not be relying on 83 year old to generate paradigm shifts. Please, for the love of God, other decent people with influence. Step up.
AoC has been highly visible in news and media so she's also giving it a go. I think one of our real issues is that leadership wise Jefferies is alright but Shumer is downright depressing.
Over the next two years we'll see a constant push by establishment dems to push out the progressives because centrist politicians on both sides want to keep a pro-corporate status quo.
AOC is now old enough to run for president. I can see her running in 2028 and getting the grassroots support that Bernie enjoyed.
If anyone can get the youth out to vote she can. they need to focus hard on getting people registered though.
I also really REALLY hope she doesn't campaign with a fucking Cheney
I also really REALLY hope she doesn't campaign with a fucking Cheney
I thought I saw AOC calling out how bad an idea that was, back when Harris did it, so I don't expect her to make the same mistake
"I think there's plenty of people that aren't happy about that, and I think that is part of the nature of putting together a coalition," Ocasio-Cortez, who clashed with Cheney when they were both in the House, said.
"I don't love it, but that doesn't mean that we aren't on the same team, and we aren't on the same page when it comes to who is unequivocally the better candidate in order to win the presidential election."
https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-liz-cheney-harris-campaign-trump-1976031
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They'll never allow AOC to win, just like they didn't allow Bernie.
With enough support they won’t have the power to choose. It’s an uphill battle but one that we can win.
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AOC is now old enough to run for president.
She was old enough during the last election as well.
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I was higher on Jeffries until I heard him interviewed by John Stewart. He said a bunch of nothing just like the rest of the party.
AOC’s interview was significantly better.
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Jeffries is horribly corrupt and a total stooge for monied interests. Don’t let his PR team fool you.
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The Democrats succession planning was/is terrible, which is why an 83 year old independent is one of the few that can rally a crowd. I wish they had done better.
In German class, in Arizona, my German teacher taught us teenage edgelords about Hitler. About his speeches. About his Charisma. He was a cult of personality. He could rally a crowd. If there aren't videos comparing trump rallies to Hitler, I suggest you make you're own comparison, and use your own judgment. There's a reason fascism wins. Hate doesn't prosper under progressives.
I have a friend who's really into serial killers and cults, like, he's listened to the recordings of the final moments of the Jamestown Massacre where you can hear them forcing the Flavor-Aid down people's throats as the rest gasp and choke and die in the background, and he says that Trump sounds just like Jim Jones. From his speech patterns to the tone of his voice, it gives him chills just how alike they sound.
Jonestown, or as I just learned it was also called, the Peoples Temple Agricultural Project
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Yeah, it's not bad planning.
They continue actively keeping the progressives and the younger leaders out of power.
(This is about AOC, not Bernie, but we all know they did him dirty at least twice already.)
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Hey Bernie if you need some blood or a kidney or something lemme know.
Give us the word Bernie, we can find a whole bunch of blood and kidneys for you.
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I think the only way the Democrat party meets the current moment is if an AOC or Bernie or similar wins the next presidential primary and aggressively replaces the current leadership.
First they'll need to fight to even have a fair election in 2026 and 2028. (Hell, even to have an election).
"elections" are a cornerstone of autocracies. There will definitely be an election event.
Whether your vote is even counted is another question entirely. Same for whether you will be allowed to cast a ballot.
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Going to be hard for a progressive to win a primary when the corporate dems flood those campaigns with DNC money for the opposition, or worse just steal the nomination flat-out.
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At this point some Democrats need to splinter off with the simple litmus test of opposing the oligarchs.
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“If the Democrats listened to Bernie, we wouldn’t be in this mess. I assume he feels a deep level of disgust.”
Fuck, at this point I'd take a bullet for this guy.
Candidly, he’d probably fight you on that, preferring you carry the torch.
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I admire Bernie but most Trump supporters I met or know seem either very rich, or poor but quite believe he will turn things around and things getting worse before it gets better is ok. We are talking about cult, expecting them being rational is dead end.
The Bernie-Trump pipeline is a very real thing, surprisingly, so if and only if one is as progressive as Bernie or AOC there is value in such an endeavor.
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