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In the statement, Kelly is confirming, on the record, a number of details in a 2020 story in The Atlantic by editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including Trump turning to Kelly on Memorial Day 2017, as they stood among those killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery, and saying, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?”

Trump said he did not want to visit the graves of American soldiers buried in the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris because, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” During that same trip to France, the article reported, Trump said the 1,800 US Marines killed in the Belleau Wood were “suckers” for getting killed.

Kelly concluded, "God help us."

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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 212 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Too little, Too late. John Kelly is culpable for everything trump said and did, and pretending to be outraged about it after the fact makes him a slimy piece of shit too. And the same goes for all the scumbags willing to look the other way for personal gain and political power. I hope your disgrace follows you for the rest of your lives.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Everyone should remember that when these people say these things, what they're also telling you is that they just let it happen. They stood by and said nothing. The reason they did was because they wanted to ride the new king's coattails. They banked on the party lasting forever... Now they're gonna sing and cry crocodile tears.

Too little, too late! No clemency! No pity! However, please do continue. We want to make sure you have company where you're going!

[–] catfish@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

I concur with both the Dr. and the Capt. very well said

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

But I've heard all of this well before 2020... Did they rat him out ages ago, or was that another person present?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kelly and Mattis were also used early in the Trump Administration to "prove" Trump was a grownup who would listen to intelligent people behind the scenes. Both of them should have known better.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They chose not to for the sake of power and greed.

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[–] wolf6152@lemm.ee 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TLDR, an accessory to crimes and all around piece of shit trying to make themselves look like less of a bad guy.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

Man known for throwing people under bus thrown under bus. Seems poetic.

[–] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women,

As suspected but also yikes.

A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

Also pretty clear. He wants to be a tinpot dictator in the same vein as Putin and Kim.

CNN reached out to the Trump campaign Monday afternoon, telling officials there that a former administration official had confirmed, on the record, a number of details about the 2020 Atlantic story, without naming Kelly, and seeking comment. The Trump campaign responded by insulting the character and credibility of retired Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Mark Milley, who had nothing to do with this story.

Lol.

[–] hillbicks@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

Oh man, the last part. But it really shows how much they must be struggling with everything that is going on. Not that I'm complaining, I think I've earned it after last couple of years.

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[–] 8BitRoadTrip@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What’s interesting is that Trump seems to have no conception at all that he will go down in history as a terrible human being and general loser.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's like a little kid that wants attention. Getting attention for being naughty is just as good as getting attention for being good, but is much easier.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine, if you will, people in 2120 still using his grave as a gender neutral bathroom. Just warms your heart.

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[–] protist@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Trump has clinically-diagnosable Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He thinks he's the best at things and brags about associating with the best people. He can only consider himself in his day-to-day decision-making, and only cares about other people to the extent they are useful to him in that moment. He genuinely believes his way of doing things is "perfect."

While it's not unheard of, you really can't expect someone with NPD to ever change. He will never admit fault, ever, because he has demonstrated he will protect his ego at all costs

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He just made jokes while in California about Pelosi's husband being bludgeoned with a hammer by one of his psychopathic followers.

Just let that one marinate for a few seconds.

Shitting on American heroes through lack of any understanding of the mere idea of self sacrifice seems a bit unsurprising.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Watch now, how all the “patriotic” MAGAts try and defend the disgustingly disrespect to our fallen service men and women.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been having fun with an old friend of mine who has been dragged into the cult. His whole personality is that he's a veteran. So when something like thisis pointed out, he struggles to find an excuse. It's been particularly entertaining since january 2020.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

As a veteran myself, please do not let up.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Damn have you been documenting any of the really good shit? Like specific convos and stuff?

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

This doesn't matter. His supporters won't hear about it. And if they did, they won't believe it.

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

History cares.

Trumps loser-base will die off soon enough. We need it on the record.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

And if they did believe it, they would resort to the old faithful “I am better than [group of people] so I feel good about myself!”

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[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yet despite all of this, everyone that I have met who outwardly advertises their veteran status is full on 100% in love with Trump.

It's almost like the battered woman who says she loves her man right up until he murders her.

[–] pingveno@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of veterans out there that don't advertise it because it's not a core piece of their identity. Of course the 'Murica veterans are going to be more frequently Trumpers. My uncle was in the Vietnam War, but he's only talked about it a handful of times when asked. He despises Trump, not because he's a vet, but because of who Trump is.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The more information that comes out about Trump, the more clear it is that he's a full-on psychopath. I don't think it's possible for normal human beings to understand the depths of his depravity.

Despite the first hand evidence that Trump loathes those who gave life and limb for our country, I expect that a majority of current and ex-military will still vote for him.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I agree. It's a actually impossible to imagine him doing anything just because it's the right thing to do.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Got a book to sell? I wonder if he knew all these disturbing things before he took the job.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Or stayed on the job once it became obvious from being in on the planning meetings. Fuck all of them and all of their oh, don't worry, we have adults in the room bullshit.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This guy can choke on a fat syphilitic dick.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hey, that's not nice to said hypothetical dick. It's already riddled with disease, why make it worse for the poor li'l pecker?

[–] kometes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

May it be his own fat syphilitic dick.

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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trump talks like a 19 year old poser antifa edge lord about the US military and yet look at the people who voted him in.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

antifa

That stands for anti fascist. As such, it's strange that you think Trump is anti facism. He tried to overturn an election. Just one of many examples.

I think the word got used like any generic epithet, like “millennial” or whatever. “Antifa” has been corrupted by right wing propagandists to mean looting anarchist, leftist, vandal, etc.

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[–] huxley75@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Poser Nazi edgelord. Trump isn't ANTIFA - he openly acknowledges and eggs on fascists. Not the opposite.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

He blamed antifa for violence in summer of 2020. His supporters posted online that antifa was coming to get them in their small towns. Antifa is their boogeyman.

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[–] catfish@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I think he may be a lot more shallow, lets say a 3rd grader that never learnt to be compassionate and empathetic. More dangerous even.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That train left the station a loooooong time ago, Johnny boy

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Dude's just as shitty as Trump. It works like that.

[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm wondering how long will trump last in Vietnam if his "bone spurt" didn't save him from the draft.

Sure, he could still be assigned away from the fighting, but still I would like to know how he'd do.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Bone Spurt haha!

I had that happen to me yesterday, but it felt pretty good actually.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's plenty of stories about friendly fire "accidents" resolving untustable guys in front line units.

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