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Unprecedented? Soooo many fascist precedents. Pick a fascism.
I keep seeing the word "unprecedented" to describe Trump's bullshit. I got bad news...
1921 - The Sturmabteilung – More commonly known as the ‘brown shirts’, militant branch of the Nazi party, loyalists who used violence and intimidation against opposing parties and targeted populations. Today we have MAGA or ‘red hats’ who use the same tactics but in a less organized fashion (arguably groups like the ‘Proud Boys’ are a closer match, but those are all just smaller subsets of MAGA). A few recent key highlights were the Jan 6 insurrection and the caravan that ran a bus of Biden supporters off the road; and of course countless individual instances of targeted bigotry.
1923 – Speaking of Jan 6, that was the modern equivalent to the Beer Hall Putsch, which was also an unsuccessful attempt at an insurrection.
1924 – Hitler was sentenced to a 5 year prison sentence for his involvement in the Beer Hall Putsch, for which he only served 10 months; during that time he wrote his manifesto “Mein Kampf”. Our current president was recently convicted of 34 felonies, for which he faced zero consequences. Around that time, Project 2025 surfaced, which echoes many of Mein Kampf’s key points, most notably a disdain for democratic institutions and a call to restructure the government into a more authoritarian model made up of loyalists. Trump has also directly quoted Mein Kampf multiple times, and borrowed other language from Hitler like "Lügenpresse" (Lying Press) as "Fake News".
1926 - League of German Worker Youth, or “Hitler Youth” – heavy exploitation of teen impressionability, especially teen boys, to woe support from a young audience. Today there are youth groups for just about everything, but leveraging insecurities of young boys played a role in the recent election, with exit poles showing Gen Z males leaning disproportionately to Trump.
1929 – The Great Depression left pretty much the entire planet dreaming of a more economically secure future, which gave opposition parties to the status quo a major point to criticize those currently in power; the Nazis were no exception, and gained a lot of their support promising an improved economy. The modern world economies were recently all hamstrung by covid, and remain weakened, once again giving opposition parties something to blame on their opponents – costs of groceries, housing, etc are a huge part of why people justified support for Trump (and more broadly, a global shift toward authoritarianism).
1933 – Enabling Act of 1933 – The gist of this one is that Hitler used their existing legal framework to completely undermine and rewrite their legal framework. He put out a rapid slurry of legal decrees and took a grand total of 53 days to basically destroy their constitution and grant himself absolute power. Today, we’re seeing a similar rapid-fire of concerning legislation from Trump via his executive orders.
1933 – Hitler appointed Chancellor by German president Hindenburg. Hindenburg was in his mid-80s at the time of that appointment. Trump may be more of a Hitler’s-enabler figure than an actual-Hitler, but it doesn’t take long to spot a younger vocal appointee that’s been handed power without the say of voters: today’s actual-Hitler could be Elon Musk. *as I understand it, voting for a party then appointment to chancellor was pretty standard for the German govt at the time, so this was very much Germany's equivalent to Trump taking the majority vote.
1933 – Book Burnings – Basically material that didn’t align with Nazi ideals was made contraband. Today, we’ve seen a push to remove things like LGBT or civil rights content from public schools and libraries.
v v v You are here. v v v
1934 – The Night of Long Knives – Purging of non-loyalists from government positions by execution. Today’s equivalent is happening right now, starting with the email that was sent to all federal employees essentially bribing them to resign, and threatening firing of those remaining as part of a restructuring of the federal workforce, and continuing with the gutting of non-loyalists from the military.
^ ^ ^ You are here. ^ ^ ^
There's also the seeming never-ending list of examples of minorities who support Trump.
Edit - this is just a list I cobbled together off the top of my head, but I'm no historian or anything, so if you've got any more to throw onto the pile, comment and I'll add it. Also if you ARE a historian with an interest in the period in question, please lay down as much insight as you're willing to hit me with.
US media has never been a group that has regularly considered any history other than their own history
It's a bit of that "America, Fuck Yeah" attitude where it's unprecedented in the USA and since only the US is important in our eyes, our media completely ignores history outside of our borders.
Amerocentrism is a huge problem in the USA.
You're right, it's absolutely the same path.
This 100%, "The Third Reich at War" by R.Evans should be mandatory reading for all sane people.
One month after being elected Chancellor, Hitler began replacing police leadership with members that aligned with Nazi ideals.
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
And those of us who study history are doomed to watch idiots repeat it.
If you're in 50501, with a member count like that, yesterday was the time to make preparations for as many to get to the capital as possible. Its Project 2025 for a reason, it will be done by the end of the year. We can't wait any longer or a passage to safety will no longer remain.
The army is the most likely entity to take out the fascists.
It’s far more likely Trump would use the National Guard, having already leveraged William Barr’s loophole to deploy them against citizens in DC and Portland.
The army already made it clear it wouldn't do shit back on January 6. This is just being extra.
They were ordered not to do anything. The senior officers are indoctrinated to loyalty to the country and constitution. He needs to replace the senior officers to have any chance of establishing himself as a dictator
Thanks for commenting on this ... i have been asking for such comments many times to anyone since about 2 weeks now.
The first of Trump's military blunders. The same one Hitler made.
Putin couldn't wish for a more useful idiot. Eventually he'll be giving direct tactical orders that result in China and Russia not needing to worry about the US Navy presence.
My prediction?
He'll first order Carrier Strike groups to reduce the number of vessels. Maybe keep one AEGIS guided missile destroyer, and one Alreigh-Burke. Remove one of the attack submarines. Cut the Supply-class boats down to a single vessel. ("Just cram it all it one, and fill it up twice as often").
But that's not Hitler level stupid on it's own. He'll have those ships scrapped. He needs to appease the defense industry, so he'll order the procurement of the true king of the fleet: Trump-class Dreadnaught Battleships (because he needs the extra big dreadnaughts!). They should be "nuclear powered" use the latest "laser cannon" a rail gun, and the biggest longest range cannons they can fit.
And that's just what he'll start with in the Navy.
It's not a wish when you made the idiot useful in the first place .
"would you support me in a coup? Your fired."
It's not unprecedented though
True, but the other two circumstances were very different.
Obama fired McChrystal for criticizing him of poor judgement in a Rolling Stone article.
https://www.bbc.com/news/10395402
Truman fired McArthur for failure to follow directions, prolonging the Korean War.
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov/education/presidential-inquiries/firing-macarthur
O.P. might be referring Hitler ...
How so?
Im honestly curious
It's unprecedented in us history. But in world history it's following a particular game plan from the last century 100%.
I was hoping for good news. Fuck.
Well i guess I should have said it wasn't "unexpected" at least lol.
Ha, yeah unfortunately. I can see where you originally came from though. That's less of a "ha" and more of a 😭
Krasnov still at it with the dismantling.
When he's done the 'axis of evil' countries will have a field day with their neighboring countries completely unchecked.
Diversity? Loyalty
Equality? Loyalty
Inclusion? Loyalty
OK so what are the chances that the military would revolt against the government? Would those in command fired have any power left in the army due to loyalty or simply annoyance of the power grab?
Zero.
~~'merica - fuck yeah~~
~~Comin' in to save the motherfucking day-yeah~~
Once he has the military licking his boots, any chance for 2A is lost. Which of course, is why he's doing this.