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I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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[–] pseudo@jlai.lu 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The problem with Windows is that it is not build to be parametrised. Anyone a bit tech-savy will be frustrated by the inability to tune it effectively for its need.
The problem with Linux is that it is not tech-normie friendly. Sure it has distribution easy to use and pre-parametrised so anyone with basic computer skill can use it. But people with basic computer skill don't have computers with Linux. Anyone who just want to use a computer has to first learn how to install an OS.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 8 minutes ago

The problem with Linux is that it is not tech-normie friendly.

That probably was true 15 years ago. That is absolutely not true now. This misconception stems from the fact that most tech normies have a lot of experience with Windows through job, so people assume Windows is friendly, but in reality they just know how it works.
Learning how to use Linux is dead easy. It's not popular because it's not pre installed, as you said, but it's not because the OS is bad, it's because Linux doesn't have multibillion corporation behind it to make sure its everywhere.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

i almost forget how much it sucks whenever i'm not forced to use it for a while.

[–] obbeel 9 points 2 hours ago

Third party licensed apps are everything on Windows.

[–] obbeel 6 points 2 hours ago

I think Windows is successful because it creates a nice Enterprise environment, where companies can easily get into investing into new apps to use in their offices. I think that's why it's successful.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

In my experience as well, fedora just works more than windows. Games work and run better without crashing. No bsods. No needing to manually start drivers for my tablet and restart my DAC.

Only thing windows has is coherent one release and exclusives in terms of a few softwares. Like adobe which is a scam now.

And the second advantage will vanish with more people on linux.

[–] flork@lemy.lol 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

My exact experience too. Fedora "just works". I especially like the immutable varieties for even more "just works (and continues to just works)-iness"

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 42 minutes ago

I've had an issue where nvidia drivers stopped working. For half a day while the update was rolling in. Thankfully linux has super easy rollback feature that automagically activates when you force restart using the power button.

Seriously, ever since I went to "shitty, always broken tinkerers toy not a real os for real people" linux, I have not had to use the switch on my psu. Seems it's literally only there for windows.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

Level1tech was reviewing the Ryzen 9950X/9900X and he noted how performance on Windows was wildly inconsistent depending on peculiar settings such as sidestepping security features and marking apps to run as administrator (aka also sidestepping windows security features) yet on Linux you can get better performance via Proton OOTB.

Linux has its quirks too but people kid themselves when they convince themselves that the dozens of weird tasks and apps and tweaks they make to Windows are "plug and play" compared to Linux, which in my experience has been way less tweaking.

The main tweaks I've done on linux usually include installing ROG-control-center (optional laptop faff) or cryotweaks on Steamdeck (which just sets some sensible options already enabled on most distros)

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

You know what just works ? Bazzite. It's as easy to use as a PlayStation.

[–] itmecorban@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don’t even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Bro wait until you want to use them for a call. How do you tell it to switch to call mode when it won't by default. Ah yeah that's right, you can't. And if you do, good luck switching it back for music when you're done. I've had friends who got bluetooth headphones and tried to use them wireless on Windows and it's just a battle every single time

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I have a wireless keyboard. It comes with its own dongle, so you can expect it to work with some generic keyboard driver. I plugged into my USB-hub, works just fine on Linux. No lag, no nothing.

On Windows? Well, it works, but the audio device I have plugged in just straight up refuses to function while the dongle is hooked up as well. It seems to gobble up pretty much the entire bandwidth. Amazing.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Overall, I'm happy with Linux for everything. But it is a hard sell for your average person when you have to change the init configurations for every single game you download (even if it's just for enabling gamemode).

Also I'm am very curious as to how you even got a bluescreen. I don't even remember when I last saw one.

[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

you have to change the init configurations for every single game you download (even if it’s just for enabling gamemode)

I haven't had to do this for a single game I've played. Am I lucky? What does "gamemode" do? (Am I missing out on something?)

The worst I've had to do to get a game to work was change to "Proton Experimental" in the compat settings for one game that had basically just launched. (I also remember the EA launcher being terrible when I played "It Takes Two" with my partner, but I don't remember what was terrible about it and also remember them having problems on Windows so I don't know if it should count or not, lol). My partner is still using Windows, and we game together a lot, and honestly I think they have games crash far more often than I do. Games take longer to launch for me though - "Processing Vulkan Shaders" takes up to a minute or two if it is the first launch since boot of a larger game. No idea what happens if I skip it, so I don't.

It's honestly been such a breath of fresh air, I am so grateful for the talented people making this shit work so well, especially in the last several years.

[–] RandomPrivacyGuy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

Also I’m am very curious as to how you even got a bluescreen. I don’t even remember when I last saw one.

That's the thing - I wasn't really doing anything. I had my web browser open, had steam running in the background. I moved my mouse around and then got jumpscared with a blue screen saying "unexpected store exception". I even managed to catch the blue screen on camera and send it to my friend to make that "windows just works" joke.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This was sorta my fault, but I'm counting it. I have been flashing meshtastic devices recently and flashed two just fine from fedora (just had to DL ungoogled chromium because fuck chrome but librewolf can't access serial ports so..), tried to flash a third from my friend's windows PC and it just would not recognize it in the serial monitor, tried for like an hour being dumb, then I remembered drivers exist, downloaded one set of drivers, couldn't install lord knows why, downloaded a second set that finally worked on a reboot and got it flashed.

I understand that sometimes you still have to install drivers on Linux too, but can we stop pretending you don't have to on windows? What's more while I was in there and edge wasn't using my serial port my friend said to install a chrome based anyway to try, and I had to find the damn download pages instead of using a package manager, philistines.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 26 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Windows sure is bad, though I haven't seen an actual blue-screen in years. That's some foul luck.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You just get forced update while you're in the middle of work and random settings resets.

[–] obbeel 1 points 2 hours ago

I had one last week because of Storage problems.

[–] soyboy77@lemmy.ml 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Windows bloat sucks. I wish Microsoft gave you the option to just install the components/features you're likely to use. That way you could have an agile, minimal custom installation like you do in Arch.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 hours ago

I wanted to try the gamer windows distro. Aurora or atlas or whatever. Its install wanted me to manually get drivers. I wasn't feeling like doing annoying tech stuff and troubleshooting so i just got fedora instead.

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

In my experience, a stable beginner friendly distro such as mint, is 10x closer to "just working" but...

I do think that the windos DE tends to be more reliable than any linux DE I have tested. The only DE that compares is gnome, which I find very very stable (but I hate it)

I think that non-technical people are just used to a simple playbook of:

  1. GUI is rarely the issue, so you never need to see the terminal.
  2. If there is an issue, restart
  3. If that didn't work, ask for help from your local techy

And for linux step 3 usually doesn't work because your local techy is probably someone who just knows how to google and paste into cmd.

[–] obbeel 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I think problems that could be solved are generic hardware compatibility. Being able to install Wi-Fi adapters and Digital Tokens easily on Linux would go a long way. I think it will get there, though.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Wifi works great on every distro I tried

[–] obbeel 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

With a Wi-Fi adapter on Desktop?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Yes, on these distros that i remember: arch, fedora and mint

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Huh? Only DE thing not being stable for me was xfce Thunar being crashy for a while. There are unstalbe DE?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I tried Cinnamon, KDE, XFCE and gnome. The only one that I can't recall having any issues with is Gnome.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

And for linux step 3 usually ~~doesn't~~ works because your local techy is probably someone who just knows how to google and paste into ~~cmd~~ the terminal.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 15 hours ago

Yep, I have used Linux since 2017 after W10 just made everything slower for home use and work. I have been using W11 for work lately, and it sucks. The office16/root/vfs/ProgramFilesCommonX64(86)/office16/ai.exe and aimgr.exe keep hogging resources in task manager and bogging down the system when ever I try to get work done. Deleteing those files helps but they come back after updates, so for now I created two empty text files and changed the filename and extensions to match the deleted files, so far that has kept updates from reinstalling those ai files

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