Why do we allow so many terrorists to own guns?
If you use a gun to commit a crime, you should lose the right to own guns forever.
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Maybe, just Maybe if one of these fucking right wing nuts take out a politician then watch real quick we will get new gun laws. Long as they shooting up schools, and churches and hurting us common folk nothing will change.
Gabby Giffords? Congressional baseball shooting?
And Steve Scalice's shooting?
That was the baseball one.
Thanks for the reminder. I thought it was a congressional baseball game. How these people literally get shot and still don't see the need for reform, I don't understand.
Hey, I'll have you know a few feet of your lower intestine, part of your colon, and almost dying is a small price to pay when you can insider trade and rake in that sweet sweet NRA money
Easiest way to kickstart it is arming at-risk minorities.
California's strict gun laws have their roots in white conservatives' reaction to the Black Panthers marching with rifles while St. Reagan was governor of the state.
The upside of this strategy is that if the gun laws don't change, then at least those minorities will have some means of protecting themselves.
+1, if anyone wants to know why California has such restrictive gun laws those started in response to the Black Panthers policing our cops.
So, yeah, have black people show up with ARs in some state capitols and you'll kickstart gun control right quick. Arming liberal women, gays and trans people in red states and having them show up at the capitol might work too.
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If they kill a Democrat, the right will just cheer. If they kill a Republican, the right will proclaim loud and long how this proves they're the victims of violent Democrats and it'll get brought up for years to "both sides" political violence, the way that the Congressional baseball game shooting is today. Plus the more deranged part of the base wall immediately create new conspiracy theories about how it wasn't really a Republican/right-winger that did the shooting, it was a left-wing antifa/FBI plant controlled by George Soros, Bill Gates and Tom Hanks using the space lasers to control their 5G+vaccine zombie trial and now that the trial run has succeeded you all need to be aware because the civil defense sirens will sound at 10pm next Tuesday and that's the signal for the National Guard to come through and scour the neighborhood and arrest everyone and intern then into FEMA camps.
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If they kill a Republican, the right will official loud and long hours this proves they’re the victims
....and then pass rules that Republicans politicians at all levels be exempt from any gun restrictions, even on someone else's private property. They would proudly wear hip holsters onto the House floor during debate and claim that is the only way they can be safe. The first shooting victim on the House floor will be a person of color from a Republican gun.
If it happens to be a radical from the left that does the initial killing, then there's even a possibility Republicans would support gun restrictions on Democrats.
Remember, the conservative answer to too much gun violence is always adding additional guns.
I am going to have to deduct points there. You forgot to add in Hunter Biden and laptop into your well developed right wing conspiracy theory.
No definitely not. They didn't do anything after Gabby Giffords was shot back in 2011, they're not going to now.
Only if it's a Republican politician that is not considered a "RINO".
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Maybe not 100% of the time but at least 80-90% of the time it's always the police, or DA failing to do their job properly. If you're pending a felony trial you cannot own/buy guns until you're proven innocent, and they should be confiscated. I cannot imagine how this man would not be chargeable.
Similar goes for many shootings, they plea down to a lesser charge or the cops just don't do their job and let go obvious crimes.
Can’t keep your position as a sheriff or DA who are always “tough on crime”. When you start holding right wing gun owners to the law they get upset and won’t vote for you. They’re the ones most punishment-happy and also simultaneously hold themselves above the law, as events over the last several years should obviously indicate.
Which will promptly turn in to
As you can see, the defendant, a biological MAN in a dress, was carrying a pistol in HIS purse when HE tried to invade a women's bathroom to express HIS sick gender delusion. I ask the fine Texans of this jury, would you let this sick MAN rape your daughters at gunpoint?
I'm not making a sophistical argument, they already do this. It's just that they currently focus more on codewords like "thug" to make sure a black man who had three joints in his house can never vote again. If you want gun control, arm every LGBT person in the country and Republicans will ban everything more advanced than a rubber band shooter the very next day, just like how the first sweeping gun control legislation was instituted by then-Governor Reagan to keep the Black Panthers down.
Texas will legalize biracial transgender lesbian atheists before Texas starts actually taking people’s guns away.
Texas takes (usually black) people's guns away all the time, they're not even close to having the most permissive gun laws in the country. As with all things Republicans do, Texan gun culture is massively hypocritical to fulfill a racist double standard.
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Those are already legal according to the Constitution.
Not according to the Republican Party
I’m not making a sophistical argument, they already do this.
Sadly you're 100% correct. They cling to the bathroom panic even though their arguments have basically no basis whatsoever in reality. Even the "Family Research Council", a religious right-wing think-tank, was only able to find 23 cases of “bathroom incidents” over the span of 18 years - most of which involved cis men, not trans women or even crossdressers, and two cases of discrimination against trans women who were just using the bathroom. Plus in one case a conservative man entered the women's changing room when KIDS were changing to "make a point" about a nondiscrimination law that was recently passed. Everything these creeps claim the left is doing is always just projection.
Meanwhile states that discriminate against trans students have the same rate of sexual assault as other states, and trans teens are much more likely to be victims of assault, especially when they're denied access to facilities that match their identity:
Why do we allow so many terrorists to own guns?
Gun lobby: "$500 is $500“
Kind of self-explanatory. People who are willing to commit crime with guns also don't care if law forbids them owning one.
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Should not even be a right to begin with.
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More republican terrorists every day.
Yeah just a normal republican anymore
The man ... approached the governor’s office on the first floor of the Capitol around 2 p.m. ... He returned to the outside of the Capitol shortly before 9 p.m. ...
This guy first shows up at 2p. Gets arrested, taken to the station, put in jail in Madison, posts bail, goes and gets the rifle, and is back at the Capitol again within seven hours? This almost smacks of the police and jail working really hard to make sure this guy got booked, processed, and released as quickly as possible.
Some of those that burn crosses are the same that work forces.
FTA:
"The man said “he did not own a vehicle and it is likely he has access to a large amount of weapons and is comfortable using them,” police said in the bulletin sent to Capitol workers."
Arrested at 2 PM in the capitol:
2 E Main St, Madison, WI 53703
Taken to Dane County Jail and processed:
115 W Doty St, Madison, WI 53703
Back to the capitol at 9 PM.
Now, granted, it's a 5 minute walk from the jail to the capitol, but still, without a car he had the ability to get an assault rifle and go back?
I feel safe in saying he didn't hop on public transportation carrying an AR. Maybe he had it in a bag?
The man was taken into custody for openly carrying a firearm in the Capitol, which is against the law, Warrick said. Weapons can be brought into the Capitol if they are concealed and the person has a valid permit. The man arrested did not have a concealed carry permit, Warrick said.
The crime wasn’t being a raving lunatic with a gun - it was the lack of paperwork and a shirt to conceal it!
This is why we need new legislative maps in Wisconsin.
It wasn't a Nerf gun, he was carrying a deadly weapon. If you're too stupid to get a permit or leave your weapon in the car I don't think you're responsible enough to own a gun.
Gov. Evers should pull a DeSantis: Put the guy on a plane, fly him down to Florida and dump him there.
Perhaps, like many, this individual has too much access to firearms.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A man illegally brought a handgun into the Wisconsin Capitol, demanding to see Gov.
Tony Evers, and returned at night with an assault rifle after posting bail, a spokesperson for the state said Thursday.
The man, who was shirtless and had a holstered handgun, approached the governor’s office on the first floor of the Capitol around 2 p.m. Wednesday, state Department of Administration spokesperson Tatyana Warrick said.
The man was taken into custody for openly carrying a firearm in the Capitol, which is against the law, Warrick said.
Madison police reported Thursday that the man, who was not named, was taken into productive custody and taken to the hospital.
Evers, a Democrat, was on a hit list of a gunman suspected of fatally shooting a retired county judge at his Wisconsin home in 2022.
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