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[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago

The dems really need to appoint a shadow cabinet and hold press conferences with fact checks and useful advice about how to get vaccinated.

I'm glad that I am science literate and live close to the canadian border.

[–] A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)
  • Measles estimated case-fatality rate: 1.3%
  • Estimated US population: 346,715,067
  • Measles deaths if everyone in the US got measles: 4,507,295
  • Upper limit on estimated MMR vaccine caused anaphylaxis: 0.000066%
  • Anaphylaxis case-fatality rate: 0.3%
  • Estimated vaccine-caused fatality rate: 1.98 * 10^-7 %
  • Estimate vaccine-caused fatalities avoided by not vaccinating US population: 0.69
  • Net increase in fatalities from switching to measles natural immunity for everyone in the US: 4,507,294

So it would only be better if he wants an extra 4.5 million Americans to die.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

his worms are willing to make that sacrifice.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Measles also resets your immune system, making other illnesses deadly again.

Back in the day you'd survive Smallpox, then get Measles, then get Smallpox again.

These days, I guess it will be Covid and the Flu killing most people.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

that's only 1500 or so 9/11s... who cares, right?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are there any other complications from contracting measles that you haven't factored in?

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Hand picked by the president to be the best person for the job for leading the dept of health.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’d be better if you were an obscure and unimportant member of the Kennedy family and stayed that way.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

dint know he existed til he announced his run.

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We did that, we gave everyone a very mild, usually symptomless, case of the measles. We called it vaccination.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That would remove a lot of vaccine skepticism

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 63 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Dumb son of a bitch doesn’t even understand that a vaccine is “giving someone the disease” without killing them. God damn are we devolving that fast?

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Brainworms like measles.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 220 points 3 days ago (51 children)

Yes, the old strategy of overwhelming the hospital system with mouth breathers.

Amazing strategy, Raisinhead.

[–] Chef@sh.itjust.works 104 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I consider him more of an apple head.

[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Pretty sure I stole this one from here on Lemmy.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 151 points 3 days ago (2 children)

“The measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” Robert F. Kennedy Jr. told Sean Hannity on Fox News.

Wouldn't it be great if there was something else that gave you protection against measles infection, without you actually having to have measles? If only ...

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 78 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The measles vaccine is literally a weakened version of the measles virus. It’s just an attenuated measles infection that allows your body to build antibodies against it without a full on infection.

This guy should have stayed off the raw meat.

[–] arken@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

As I said in a different thread recently, the only issue is that the name "vaccine" has been tainted in the minds of idiots. Rebrand it as "natural immune system therapy" or something, and market it as something the establishment is firmly against, and they'd be lining up to get it.

None of these people understand what vaccines actually do.

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[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

He’s so gross.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No RFK, things would be much better if YOU got measles

With you gone, people could vaccinate again and then they wouldn't get sick, you worm for brains

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago

Damn. If only there was a way to get protection against measles without having to get measles. Some sort of injection. That'd be useful.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Roald Dahl's wight, kill this man.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

a goauld symbiote ate his brain.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 24 points 2 days ago

Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[–] punkcoder@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

At what point do we get to demand hazard pay from our employers for going into the office?

[–] dumpsterac1d@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Dont trust the medical institutions until you're sick" is just the self-harm logical extension version of the plague of right-wing myopia of broke self-reliance americanism and detriment individualism. American culture is completely unsalvageable

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 126 points 3 days ago

Fuck this assclown, my wife is allergic to the measles vaccination and will likely die if she gets the disease.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 26 points 2 days ago

United States Secretary of Health and Human Services here everybody.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think RFK is the Horseman of Plague. Guess the role of Famine goes to Musk, and War belongs to Trump. I am not yet sure who is Death, but they will reveal themselves soon enough.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Putin is death

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

We are in such a crazy timeline.

This is the kind of shit you'd see on some forum. If the forum was moderated, they'd eventually get booted.

When I was debating fucking morons like this, I never suspected that one of these assholes would be put in charge of our fucking health. It's just so insane.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 71 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Measles also resets your immune system for every other thing your body already learned to deal with. No, it would not be fucking better.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Remember the conspiracy theorists who though "the government" was using Covid-19 to cull the population? I wonder what they're up to right now.

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[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What a stupid motherfucker. Anyone who voted for these venal clowns ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 77 points 3 days ago (4 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Let the entirety of the US have measles, and a good percentage will die, another good part will be scarred for life and have disabilities from it and the country will collapse

[–] Jimius@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And then Trump will rescind the ADA and disability benefits so those unable to (fully) work will become homeless and destitute and die from exposure or police brutality.

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[–] madkins@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Not supporting this dude, but I watched the whole video and he never once said it would be better if everyone got measles. Maybe I missed it; if so, please correct me. He mentioned a waning effect with the vaccine vs full-blown infection, which I highly doubt is accurate (I'll research it later), but that's a massive stretch to get to the headline. He even recommended vaccines and said they will be available for free to anyone that needs them. I've gotten a little lazy in fact checking left leaning stuff because I always felt it was a little more trustworthy. I'm just starting to wonder how much I've been blindly accepting because it conforms to my biases.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

Conspiracy theorists for the last few decades: "The government is trying to murder us!"

The actual government in 2025: "Yes, we would like it if a grand majority of you were to die"

Conspiracy theorists: crickets

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[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Uhhhhhh doesn’t measles reset your immune system or something like that?

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Any sane person already had measles Rob. We were smart enough to get the vaccine.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

rfk is a terrorist who wants to use biological weapons.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Measles is capable of resetting the immune system's memory of other vaccines. This sack of shit is so incredibly dangerous.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I'm still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn't resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:

While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.

"It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won't be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.

He's still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.

But eventually I hope they'll win him over.

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[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a bonus for contracting measles, you'll get all your previous vaccines and earned immunities deleted by the measles virus attacking your immune cells dedicated to remembering how to effectively fight past pathogens.

So you can think of measles as THE antivaccine. No wonder the antivaxxers love it so much!

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[–] TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Luckily most people have sane parents so they can't get measles

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"A bunch of kids should die in pain so many more may live in fear."
-- RFKjr

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