I’m not voting for either party. Now’s not the time for division

I don't have a reason to vote for either a democratic candidate or a republican candidate.

It's simple as that, but since you're asking for an explanation:

The DNC has managed to convince me to vote for them up until 2020.

They promised a lot, but once they got into power, they walked back what they said and started talking about strategy and pragmatism. Legalizing marriage equality could cost the midterms. Cancelling student debt is too big of a risk to the economy right now. Healthcare will come gradually if we just make these concessions.

And now?

It's worse.

Biden's carcass barely skidded into the white house after fuckery in the primary, the same campaign promises trotted out from previous elections, and the utter shitshow of trump's presidency. For god's sake, it took mismanaging a pandemic to get the win.

Here we are now with people still suffering and dying from COVID, the dissolution of abortion rights, worsening climate disasters.

And the Democratic party can't even deliver on biden's campaign promise of financial relief. They're telling people to still go to work despite having covid symptoms. They're forcing trains to continue running without maintenance.

It took Thanatos to remove Diane Feinstein from office because nobody else with power in the party had the political will.

And that's what it comes down to. The democratic party doesn't have the will to make things better because it doesn't benefit them.

Why should I vote for them if they won't benefit me or the people I care about? What material conditions would I expect them to improve?

I'll vote in local elections and I'll continue what I'm doing in my community, but as I said, I won't vote for a candidate who doesn't give me a reason to vote for them.

CENTRISM DOESN'T EXIST, IT'S MERELY A RHETORICAL STRATEGY

THERE'S NOTHING ALTERNATIVE ABOUT THE RIGHT WING, THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN

Joe Biden is building the wall and let Roe get overrturned. Democrats don't even do harm reduction now.

The only difference is whether or not the president releases rainbow balloons at pride or rants about the gays ruining Christmas.

I have voted Democrat my entire life and things have gotten worse. Voting changes nothing

I'll vote Green. There are no PSL or SA or CPUSA for me to vote for. It's the left most option I have. And if not a green slot, then Libertarian just because they are more sane than Republicans and don't care too much for imperalism or culture war bullshit. is not "harm reduction".

Maybe write in Eugene Debbs. Hear he's still running from a cell somewhere.

In we're under the 3rd Red Scare and 2nd Lavender Scare. Fascist death spiral will continue until socialism improves.

Not anymore. If Dems want my vote they have to do better than strikebreaker Joe.

Dems want to build cop cities and Bidens on track to deport more people than Trump

I cannot in good conscience vote for that, it would be immoral and unprincipled, so I simply will not vote in a national election

oh fuck im gonna voot

I vote Dem straight-ballot, because of the harm reduction, and also because I don't buy the argument that having Republicans in power is energizing leftist sentiments more than it is emboldening outright fascim. But I am sympathetic to the idea that electoralism is a cul-de-sac where leftist political energy goes to run out of steam and die. I don't want to pretend that I'm totally sure of what the right approach is.

can't you vote for 3rd parties or anything

No, even if I did believe voting did something, it still wouldn't matter since I live in a very red state.

there is no point in voting, all we're doing is lending out tacit support to the system that will do as it wishes regardless

Why are people always trying to get people here to ????

Everyone here knows how the electoral system in the US works, and has madeca decision in whether they want to are not. The kind of people in a left political space are more politically aware than average.

The vast majority of people in the US don't vote and are not generally politically aware. If you really need to evangelize go out and talk to them. People here are not get-able, they've made their decision one way or another.

And most importantly, the people on this site who live in the US are not going to be the deciding votes in US elections, especially presidential (because that's what all US evangelists are always talking about) There's not enough communists or anarchists to blame your electoral losses on. Look into the 10s of millions of peoole that don't vote and don't have an exact reason for it, other than inherently knowing that the system they live under doesn't work

no. i don't support right-wingers

it's honestly that simple

I'm probably just going to vote for the farthest left viable candidate in each race. If it's the liberal, it's the liberal. If it's the DSA candidate it's the DSA candidate. The meat of my organizing work happens outside of electoral politics, but I want the political environment I work in to be the friendliest possible.

Nope. They can earn it, otherwise, I actively want it to fall.

I don't shit on people for playing the harm reduction game. That being said, I was told that l'orange douche was the worst thing ever and while he was in office nothing really changed. Then I was told Biden was going to make everything better and that hasn't happened. So... like... this is all bullshit. Plus, I ponder if Trump is so incompetent it might be a blessing in disguise.

I dunno. Voting is pointless without a a people's vanguard and some sort of system with material benefit. I'll vote on local races but in the last 6-8 years I can't remember voting for a particular candidate on the national level.

What the fuck is doing that doesn't continue or even expand upon what did?

Hahaha imagine participating in electoralism lmao...

Nothing had fundamentally change and nothing will fundamentally change from electoralism.

I live in New England, there's no point voting. I love democracy.