Losing is what Trump does best in business and life.
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The problem is that Trump stumbled onto the negative number stack overflow limit in real life and loses so hard he fails upward.
For real. Since Trump's nomination, he's lost the popular vote twice (but scraped by once thanks to the electoral college), and Republicans have lost one election after another.
So what do they do? Double down and worship the dumb motherfucker!
They're really caught in a Catch-22 (of their own making). Either they crawl up his incontinent asshole and continue to lose elections or they try to cast him out, which means losing his rabid fanbase, which also means losing elections. The only plan they have left is literally dismantling the entire system and installing a dictatorship to ensure they stay in power.
Damn, short must have been his variable
But he doesn't believe it. He thinks he's a winner. And I love this court case because it's hurting him where it hurts the most.
He loses in the bigliest way.
"HELP!" -- Donald Trump, Truth Social, 2023
I hope the fact that Trump obviously will lose a lot in all the cases against him, will finally disenchant a lot of his followers, who will see clearly, that Trump is not actually as capable as he claims, and he cannot effectively "fight the system" for them as they hoped, when he cannot even fight it effectively for himself.
Agreed with the hope but many of his fans have a conspiracy theory mindset. Anything that goes against him will, in their minds, prove he's being targeted because he's the hero we need or some shit.
Trump has a cult of personality. They'll never abandon him until the day he dies. Everyone else, however, will steer clear
I wouldn't wish him dead, but I wouldn't be sad if it happened.
I wouldn't hold your breath. The survivors of the Heaven's Gate cult continued to believe after most everyone they knew offed themselves over a comet. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.
Combine that cognitive dissonance with the sunk cost fallacy, and what you end up with is a cocktail for the worst components of human evolutionary psychology at work. Breaking that degree of social programming stacked on top of pre-existing biological priming can be damn near impossible.
Combine that cognitive dissonance with the sunk cost fallacy
They've spent years having to defend and rationalize why they vote for him. Admitting they were wrong will be impossible for a lot of them. So they dig in even deeper.
Not all of them, though. We just need enough of them to give up on Trump for him to lose his stranglehold on American politics.
I think the Republican Party needs to completely implode and reform without the crazies in order for American democracy to stand a chance.
Nothing will disenchant the followers. This is ammo for them. Their guy is getting "persecuted" by the "evil Democrats and corrupt judges". They are more likely to want to destroy the government because they distrust it.
I mean, IDGAF. Trump delende est. But the Base will never defect.
Their guy is getting “persecuted”
Yes I know Trump has pushed that narrative vigorously, and his followers have been buying it. I just don't think they'll see him as the strong guy they want to lead them to their dystopian future. When they see him lose over and over again.
I think Trump may have tried to encourage his followers to civil war, we know he uses Hitler's playbook, and according to him, you can take a country if you can convince 10-20% of the people to do it. Luckily this has fallen absolutely flat, and he seems to be more and more desperate to make his followers react, but they don't.
Boris Yeltsin was lambasted by the Soviet elites. They published nonstop criticism and lies. At one point they published how he was a pedophile and the public didn't even care. He laughed about it during a speech because it was, in the eyes of his supporters, an obvious fabrication.
Boris ended up being a drunk fuck up and lost the favor of Russians but he did that to himself. To be fair, economic shock therapy, inflation, and the perceived exploitation of Russia by the West contributed too. That's why I think Trump will not be taken down by losing court cases or by media outrage. He must do it to himself.
That is all true, but there are many differences between Boris Yeltsin and Trump. In Russia they never came to enjoy actual democracy. So they probably didn't believe or care much about it. And they had little reason to believe the press.
Come to think of it, you are probably right.
The best part of all the trials is that they are public and those people can do their own research, see the evidence, and make up their own minds. But the evidence is there and it is damning.
Nope, won't happen. They will dig in deeper against "Unfair Justice" and "Deep State" and stuff like that.
So far he hasnt suffered a single consequence for anything.
I dunno, all this hubbub seems pretty inconvenient. I bet he also got really mad a time or two. That's enough consequences, right? I'm sure he's learned his lesson.
- Chapter 4, "Soft Punishments For Soft People: The Big Meanies Don't Play Fair"
Im pretty sure he wouldn't have showed up in Georgia to get his ugly mug shot or to DC or any of the other surrenders hes being forced to make, that in itself its a big ego hit for a mofo that prizes himself as the ultimate weasel, not much admittedly but its a start, the stupid face he showed up with at the civil trial in NY told the story, and yes the dissolution its being halted but the odds are not in his favor.
Its being a pretty fun few days watching him fail like a maggot on salt lmao, well see whats up but the co defendants are already flipping in Georgia.. and the prisons over there are a fucken nightmare lmao, Im gonna run out of popcorn
Everyones been predicting the odds not being in his favor ever since his election. There have been so many damn trials and court decisions and appeals. Like god even just his tax returns took i think over a dozen court decisions ruling against him before they finally got released many years later.
His business empire just got dissolved
Nah that got halted in appeals
Only delayed a bit. It's still happening.
Donald Trump suffers
That's all I needed to read, thank you
I'll take several more servings of that please
Doubt he "suffers" from anything. You must actually aquire feelings to feel anything emotional.
Nah, he has lots of feelings about himself (and a few for Ivanka). Having his daddy's business taken from him and him imagining people thinking he's not actually successful is totally terrifying for him.
For those running on pure schadenfreude, this case is probably the most important because it's going to absolutely ruin him financially and prove what a fraud he is. For him, going to prison is secondary to having his ego stroked by adoring cult members.
Also he hasn’t lost a dollar and will never face jail time because the rules don’t apply to the rich and powerful in this country. If this is his week from hell then we’re a failure of a nation.
He's clearly bothered by being made fun of or laughed at. Obama hurt this man worse than anyone ever has.
Trump: “A lot of people are saying I had a great week in the courts.”
Lawyer: “What people are saying that?”
Trump: “A lot! Everywhere you go they are saying it. Apparently the greatest week ever.”
Lawyer: “Are these “people” in the room with us right now Donald?”
Donald Trump suffers
Yes, yes, keep going ....
Good hopefully it culminates in a prison sentence or a felony
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The former president's fraud trial will continue next week after he lost a bid on Friday to halt the proceedings while he fights a pretrial ruling that could strip him of Trump Tower and other prized properties.
Trump lawyer Christopher Kise said he was pleased the appeals court "upheld New York law and put a halt to any cancellation of business certificates, receivers or dissolution," The Associated Press reported.
As the trial was underway, Engoron on Thursday ordered that Trump and other defendants in the case give a court-appointed monitor, retired federal judge Barbara Jones, a list of all entities covered by the ruling.
Michael McAuliffe, a former federal prosecutor and elected state attorney, told Newsweek that, like much of what Trump does, the lawsuit was "a short-term tactical move designed to delay the start of the civil fraud trial.
His former lawyer and fixer is now a key witness in a criminal case connected to hush money payments made during Trump's 2016 presidential campaign to bury allegations of extramarital sexual encounters.
ABC News and The New York Times this week reported that Trump had allegedly shared potentially classified information about U.S. submarines with nuclear capability with Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt at his Mar-a-Lago resort after leaving office.
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aww, poor muffin. 🙄