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[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's with half the commenters acting like GTA V isn't a great game?

Y'all know GTA Online is a different game technically, yeah? The single player of GTA V is still there and even better now that Enhanced is on PC. Rockstar didn't fuck Up RDR2s single-player Mode so why assume they would on this?

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Even GTA Online was fantastic. There's so much to do and the heists and races were a lot of fun. I think I had more fun playing online than in the single player mode. I definitely put more time into it.

Shark cards never bothered me because I never got one.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net -1 points 6 days ago

Who cares when it releases, you know it's gonna be crap.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 149 points 1 week ago (28 children)

Take your console exclusive bullshit and shove it up your ass. I'll play it when it's on PC. And only on PC.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 56 points 1 week ago

I'll go a step further and say only when it's been vetted and discounted on PC.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This will probably be the last time it ever happens. They're trying to get people to double dip, and plenty will, but the console install base isn't what it was when GTA V came out at the end of a generation. Plus we all know full well that the PC version will happen, whereas in yesteryear, we weren't sure.

[–] Kelly@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

the console install base isn't what it was when GTA V came out at the end of a generation.

I had a look to check the figures.

From the PlayStation perspective February 2025 estimates put the PS5 at 74.9m, while January 2013 estimates put the PS3 at 77m.

However Xbox is really letting their numbers lag with 28.3m Series consoles sold by September 2024 vs 77.2m 360 consoles by April 2013.

If we were just talking PlayStation I would say 97% is near enough to make no difference but if we compare both platforms together its only 67% and that is enough to influence strategy. A console only release in 2025 is unlikely to eclipse GTA5's position as "fastest-selling entertainment product in history".

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But also don't forget that the amount of gamers is larger today than in 2013. Gaming is much more mainstream, and so even 97% of the install base is still disappointing considering steam grew by, what, 3x or something in terms of average monthly users?

Another source I found is that the amount of total gamers grew by roughly 50% from 2013 to 2025. But yeah, I just did a quick skin numbers are not precise

But still, 97% is disappointing considering the general demographic was supposed to grow. And then, in reality, it's just 67% too

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[–] Elkot@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It's just so meh. Another city, you're a criminal doing crime. There are just games with much better stories or mechanics at this point. I don't get the hype around it.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because it will be full of micro transactions and bullshit content no-one asked for, with anti cheat horseshit that will pretty much be a virus on your computer.

Sad thing is that it'll still sell millions because most people don't even know when they are being served shit.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago

maybe I’m just burned out on AAA games

I know I am.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago (1 children)

big games get delayed, a lot

And yet so many of them still suck at launch.

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[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Weird vibes in this comment section.

[–] David_the_designer@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They are all from players who are against things Rockstar did with GTA and what it represents for the industry. But they are not representative of the whole market.

The article is right about the impact for small studios. On the timeline for the game I'm working on, we have a prediction for GTA VI release with a big question mark and we hope to avoid it.

The problem is not that all players will spend $100 on the game. The problem is that the majority of the press coverage, Steam traffic, streamer time, etc. will focus on the topic. Even if there is bad press around GTA, that's still attention that is not on other games.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. I work in the games industry as well and even big studios are falling over themselves NOT to release anywhere near GTA6.

Nobody believes there won't be people playing other games at that time. But it's going to dominate the media cycle for a month, especially if it is either better or worse than fans hope. And the reality is that many, many people have limited gaming budgets. If you've only got $100 to spend, GTA6 is very likely to be the default pick at that time.

It's a behemoth in terms of grabbing attention from both the media and players. All the best laid plans for a successful release can be completely derailed by a game like GTA6.

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[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is so strange. Wasn't it not long ago that studios were crowding into very specific release windows ( usually november iirc ) so they could maximize initial sales? Maybe the digital release era has changed things. I mean, I get it if your game was in the same niche or smth, but "companies might tank" seems a little much.

Either way, if this is true, eoy 2025 is in for a dry spell when it comes to new games.

Edit: Also I find it hilarious how all these "industry analysts" keep popping up suggesting ominous things despite Rockstar not saying a peep about the game besides the trailer. Almost as if they were paid to do it.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Over time they realised that, while holiday windows or whatever have high sales, if there's a better or more popular game coming out then, yours will just be forgotten.

That said, most "industry specialists" are just glorified influencers, so take it with a grain of salt

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Judging by all the shark card crap they jammed into the last GTA, I fully expect them to shovel a bunch of crap in to make more money: $70 base games, deluxe editions, DLC, micro transactions, social club integration, required internet connections, all of it.

I miss the old GTAs before they got greedy.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Wait, do people still get excited for GTA? I thought GTA V online killed a lot of goodwill for the series.

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Are you seriously questioning whether there is any hype for GTA?

GTAV Online may have hindered Rockstar's goodwill for fans of the single player mode, but the Online mode rakes in cash.

RDR2 released in 2018 and is widely considered one of the best single player games with one of the best open worlds, strongly signalling to fans that Rockstar hasn't lost its mojo.

GTA VI is, unquestionably, the most anticipated game of the year. To suggest otherwise is to be insanely disingenuous on your part.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The main writers have since left Rockstar. Dan Houser left in 2020. I feel GTA will lose it's charm with this next entry, I hope I am wrong, but something just feels off. Either way, won't be buying it until it's on a good sale, reviews dependent too.

[–] biscuit@lemdro.id 10 points 1 week ago

It's certainly going to be interesting how this game is received. Rockstar is one of those studios that burns all its goodwill with things like Online, the "Definitive" editions, RDR2 Online closing early, yet despite that it's the largest studio with one of the largest, most successful franchises.

With the industry being so dire right now, where only huge behemoths like rockstar, or tiny efficient indie studios, can really compete, the outcome of GTA 6 might be quite consequential for the industry.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Companies need to grow a spine. Good games sell regardless of what’s out. If your confidence in your own game is so low that you’d push it to a slow release date, it’s probably not worth playing anyway.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Ask Titanfall 2 how well launching between Battlefield and CoD went for them

Release dates of big games matter, people only have so much disposable income

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I don’t know about that one. Games are expensive these days and if your game releases anywhere near the rumored $100 GTA 6, a LOT of people are going to have to choose one or the other, and it’s very unlikely that in most cases they don’t choose GTA6, literally the most anticipated video game of the last decade. Sure you can always buy the smaller game later, but a huge part of the sales of video games is the opening week, when all the hype around it has had time to come to a head, and you’re influenced by the fact that lots of other people are playing it.

Yeah good games will always sell SOME copies. But if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not quite sure why they're so concerned. I suspect they're actually not and this is just things "analysts" say.

I suspect that the release of GTA VI is going to be lukewarm compared to the release of GTA V, because everyone remembered what Rockstar did to GTA V. People are going to wait around and see how they handle GTA online because they need to do better than last time because last time was ridiculous.

I'm certainly not all that interested in getting it day one and I know a lot of other people aren't either.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

because everyone remembered what Rockstar did to GTA V

Released a fantastic game worth replaying multiple times?

GTA Online =/= GTA V

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 6 days ago

Oh yeah with all that DLC oh wait

[–] Kelly@programming.dev 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

GTA5 is more than a decade ago,.

The older gemers may remember but there is a whole generation that has spung up since.

Edit: a quick look shows there were 1.7 billion people born between 1995 and 2007 i.e. born in the period that would have trurned 18 between 2013 and 2025.. This corresponds to 20% of the global population.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago (10 children)

controversial take, but I hope they do delay it. Better a good game late than a bad game early. As big as this release is, it HAS to be good.

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[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

While at one point GTA was my favorite series and I was absolutely hyped for GTA V, I’m not for this one. I kind of feel like I’m getting a little old for GTA.

Maybe I’ll change my mind after it releases and there’s a good chance I’ll play it anyway, but right now… meh.

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I'll wait until it gets free on Epic and proceed not playing it, since i have better things to do with my life.

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