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[–] FoolishAchilles@lemm.ee 52 points 4 days ago

As someone from the US, if researchers, scientists etc. want to leave, I’d much rather they go to countries who will actually value the work they do so this ain’t all bad

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Anecdotally almost all the people who went to the states after graduating my compsci degree (about 40% of my cohort) have come back now. One guy in my cohort died in a firefight with ICE, it just isn't safe.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

One guy in my cohort died in a firefight with ICE

what

[–] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I need to hear this whole story.

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A friend of mine at Tufts was telling me about their ML/comp sco programs falling apart. She's doing her PhD and was handed a project previously led by a green card holder who fucked off (because yeah why would you stay in a place that clearly doesn't want you??). Now she's left managing expectations for a project she didn't write the codebase for.

And that was BEFORE the recent disappearing of a Tufts student earlier this week.

I'm a productive SWE at a big tech firm and I'm looking pretty seriously at offices in Canada. Better than hoping I don't get abducted because my voter registration has (D) on it.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I’m a productive SWE at a big tech firm and I’m looking pretty seriously at offices in Canada.

Come. We need more progressives in technology. You might feel the pay cut but it's so worth imo

[–] off_brand_@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago

Good to hear, I've honestly been wondering how US folks would be received moving to Canada.

Various estimates do put me at nearly a 50% pay cut. Which, if the CoL doesn't scale down at least a little bit, could actually put me in a bit of a bind when supporting my wife as well.

That's if I could actually convince her to consider it, though.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The transition is taking a lot longer than I predicted in 2000, but I'm still convinced the future of American workers will be hand-painting plastic happy meal toys for fast-food restaurants in China.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is a fantastic opportunity for Canada

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

And the rest of the world, less investment board driven research and more open results.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its funny that the "I'll move the canada" thing is actually becoming real.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

I've known of (met briefly) 2 families that moved to Canada during the first term. Still there and happy from what I've heard.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Smart people are leaving the Untied States.....I wonder why

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Science is bad anyways, right?

/s

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Hey all y'all refugee professors. Cost of living is still very good in Winnipeg, and the winters are very survivable. And if anything funky happens with the Panama Canal, Winnipeg will be booming again.

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

the winters are very survivable

sounds very attractive lol selling 1/4 of the year as "survivable"

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Haha, you have to manage expectations. And it's more like half the year. Winter lasts from November to April.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Interrogator: "what did you do the night between 15 november and 16 of March?"

[–] driving_crooner 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I won a full paid interchange scholarship to the University of Winnipeg, to start classes on the second half of 2020. It was sadly "postponed" for the pandemic, and I could choose to wait until everything came back to normal but had to pause my studies at home, or give it up and continue with my life. I have a little vacuum on my heart, for the time I couldn't live there and every time someone talks about Winnipeg I felt sad 😞

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My wife met me because she went to the University of Winnipeg as an exchange student. So yeah, you never know where life will lead you, but she said it felt like home right away in Winnipeg.

And yeah, sorry that you feel sad about what could have been.

[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Winnipeg has such a cool mix of architecture. It feels like an unplanned mess of different eras when you're going through the financial district.

If I lived in a high cost of living place I'd probably move to Winnipeg.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

if anything funky happens with the Panama Canal, Winnipeg will be booming again.

Why? Chicago is the rail hub.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

Chicago first, then Winnipeg to get to Churchill for northern shipping. Winnipeg used to be quite an important city until the Panama Canal opened up.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Project Paperclip in reverse.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 days ago

Operation Treetap

[–] HonoredMule@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Operation Mapleclip

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Operation stapler

Our gain, their loss.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago

Welcome to brain drain gang, America.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

10 years too late tbh.

[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago

This is the way.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

after a 5 hour day just to see a doctor for 15 minutes I think we could take their doctors too, if only there was a reasonable way for them to be legally entitled to work

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Well they're not legally entitled to work but US residency-trained doctor have those qualifications accepted in Canada and New Zealand. At least for now.

We should call it " Project Tropical Nectar"

[–] TimFinnerty@toot.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)