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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 89 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What Nazi Germany classed as "untermenschen:"

  • People of Jewish descent
  • People of Slavic descent
  • People of African descent
  • People of Romani descent
  • Homosexuals
  • The mentally disabled
  • The physically disabled
  • Political dissidents
  • POWs

Qualifying people were dehumanized, arrested and initially deported, but eventually taken to camps and either systematically exterminated or put into slavery.

It's not enough to say that there are parallels, America is playing exactly by the Nazi guide book.

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 8 points 6 days ago

Also worth noting they basically learned all that from Andrew Jackson the first time around

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

This is horrific. Shame of the country.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 381 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Every single person sent to El Salvador were innocent. Not a single one of them had their due process! This is all bullshit. ICE must be destroyed

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Thats the thing. Rounding up people from the street will not catch any criminals (legally speaking), by definition: if they committed a crime, and a judge deemed them guilty, they would be in jail or they would be fugitives. In either case, they are not unknowns, and authorities must've already knew about them. Getting people randomly off the street, you cannot, legally speaking, be catching criminals.

[–] CitricBase@lemmy.world 166 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep. Innocent until proven guilty, and not a single one of them was so much as indicted, much less charged or convicted. Blatant disregard for the constitution as well as human rights, everyone all the way up the chain of command needs to be prosecuted for this.

[–] Snowflake2901@lemmynsfw.com 73 points 1 week ago (5 children)

the fact that the democrats aren't filing articles of impeachment every single day tells you where they're at

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

All it takes for evil to triumph is for "good men" to do nothing.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

You'd need ~~four~~ twenty Republican senators to convict. I can't imagine that happening.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago

Before that, though, we need SOMEONE to actually propose the articles...

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It'd still be something. Bemoaning "oh there's no point because it's hopeless" gives these fuckers more fuel because the opposition is just etting it happen without any complaints.

It'd be like a cop kneeling on your neck and not bothering to scream "help I can't breathe! they're killing me!" because you've just accepted that they're going to suffocate you to death.

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[–] Snowflake2901@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

don't need to convict to gum up the works of government while the fascists try to do their genocide

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I don't even think we can gum up the works if we tried. If we try they will just do things without a law saying they can or can't. It's not like they are facing any consequences.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

None of that means we shouldn't still try. It does matter.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I don't know where you people are getting the idea I said we shouldn't still try. My comment was in regard to "gumming up the works" which for this administration doesn't matter because they are doing everything outside the law.

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[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 week ago

You're asking Hitler to get rid of the Gestapo.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 119 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is, unfortunately, incredibly common in law enforcement circles. If you're paranoid, EVERYTHING is gang related somehow.

Not only that, but they circulate bad information among themselves. Booklets about how every sports team has it's own gang affiliation, etc.

From another article, one of the tattoos in question:

https://www.latintimes.com/man-detained-ice-autism-awareness-tattoo-still-sent-prison-after-officers-declared-him-clean-579373

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 34 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The US has a greater obsession with tattoos than Japan by this point. If you go to a place in Japan and show off a tattoo, the owner might ask you to leave. The US they'll gulag your ass.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only that, but they circulate bad information among themselves. Booklets about how every sports team has it’s own gang affiliation, etc.

We all know it's the bowling teams that are the gangbangers. I mean look at them. total miscreants!

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] JSocial@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Nobody fucks with the Jesus!

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know we're largely focused on stopping Trump, and we need to.

But how do we save these guys?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Get NATO Countries (excluding the US, obviously) to send the military to liberate El Salvador.

Edit: Reworded for clarification

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That is not how NATO works or what it is

Not saying we shouldn't try to free political undesirable prisoners, just saying that that is not what NATO is for, won't happen

Obviously, this is not about the article 4/5 invocations. I'm talking about in a joint operation, unrelated to the NATO treaty, that are done by European Countries.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Are there Non-Nato countries with a military capable and willing to do that?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For clarification, I said NATO Countries excluding the US

Ok that makes way more sense

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yes. But it would be a violation of international law, so they should not be willing.

If the matter somehow transforms to obtaining the assistance of El Salvador in this case, a credible proposal of EU economic sanctions would hasten a compromise.

To be honest, I'm not fully understanding why El Salvador accepted those people from the US.

I believe they were paid for it.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Most countries would be able to take El Salvador on in a head-on-head fight.

Now, which ones can do so, if the US is backing the dictatorship there? That's a big question.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Monroe doctrine saber rattling against Europe intensifies

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The courts might be able to stop future renditions, but the president or Congress have the power to end this or return them. Congress could cut off the funding (bribes) to El Salvador or president could force them to release people.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

America has its Gestapo now. How much longer until they create SS that swears fealty not to the US but to Trump?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They've already sworn fealty to Trump. Non-fascists don't join ICE.

[–] Bremmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Yep, they're all Nazis or sympathizers

That was 10 years ago. DHS is the Gestapo you're seeing now, courtesy of the Patriot Act. They've already sworn fealty to Trump. People are looking at January 6th as an isolated event, but it proved how far the right-wing could get if they wanted to forcefully take over the government.

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 65 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is the only standard by which the Trump administration operates.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 week ago

Republicans: Meh, what's the big deal?

[–] gon@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

NotTheOnion

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