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[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I guess we're making up our own definitions these days... 6.3 is now compact?

[–] haerrii@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

https://uk.pcmag.com/mobile-phones/35438/enter-the-phablet-a-history-of-phone-tablet-hybrids

Have a look at this 2012 article and giggle together with me about the sizes of those so-called phablets.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean the galaxy note (2011) is still larger than plenty of phones now, so it doesn't seem absurd. They were large and still are.

  • Note: 146.9mm x 83mm x 9.7mm (total volume 118,269mmΒ³)

  • S25: 146.9mm x 70.5 x 7.2mm (total volume 74,566mmΒ³)

The note is 59% larger. Yet people seem to look at the specs and say "it only has a 5.2" screen, it must be way smaller than the 6.2" screen phones of today"

I don't get why reviewers conflate phone size and screen size. They aren't the same.

Shit, let's even compare it to the S25 Ultra (so the big one with a 6.9" screen).

  • S25 Ultra: 162.8mm x 77.6mm x 8.2mm (total volume 103,592mmΒ³)

The Note, despite the 5.2" screen size implying the phone is tiny in comparison, is 14% larger.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

~~Can you find any recent phone with a smaller screen?~~

Edit: I meant smaller phones rather than smaller screen, see the impact of bezels below

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Pixel 8a, Galaxy S25, iPhone 16 and 16e are all smaller.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So, they're smaller, right? Or is that not how measurements work?

This whole argument is nonsense, and doesn't change the pint that 6.3 is not "compact".

That we can find any phone smaller given the market today, means it isn't compact.

The Samsung S4 Mini was compact compared to the S4, by design.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago

I think you're mixing screen size and phone size. the size of the screen is itself big but the phone's print is small.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The Pixel 8a and the Xiaomi 15 both are 152 mm high, the Xiaomi has 1 6.36 inch screen, the Pixel 6.1 inch screen

https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=13472&idPhone2=12937

Screen size does not account for bezels.

See the other comment with the picture:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/OnePlus-13T-Leaker-highlights-more-details-of-upcoming-compact-flagship-phone.984750.0.html

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You specifically said screen 🀷

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago

Indeed, will edit my comment to ask about smaller phones

[–] shitescalates@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Screen size has a direct effect on one handed use. Bezels dont matter as much as people make them out to. Regardless, not being too much bigger than other recent phones does not make it compact

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 days ago

I'd rather have bezels - they make holding a phone easier.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Plenty.

And that's an irrelevant strawman and goalpost move all rolled into one anyway. I'm currently running a Pixel 5,which is noticeably smaller.

6.3 is not compact.

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago

Nowadays, any smartphone below 155mm can probably be considered compact.

  • under 150mm: small
  • 150mm - 155mm: compact
  • 155 - 160mm: average
  • above 160mm: large

There are 12 Android phones released between 2023 and today under 150mm: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2023&nHeightMax=150&sFormFactors=1&idOS=2

I'm accounting for phones that can actually be purchased new, or second hand from up to two years ago. The Pixel 5 was released in 2020.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nowadays, any smartphone below 155mm can probably be considered compact.

  • under 150mm: small
  • 150mm - 155mm: compact
  • 155 - 160mm: average
  • above 160mm: large

There are 12 Android phones released between 2023 and today under 150mm: https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2023&nHeightMax=150&sFormFactors=1&idOS=2

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (4 children)

No custom ROM support == no buy from me

[–] flubba86@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I was big into custom ROMs back when CyanogenMod was the state of the art. Unfortunately these days my banking app and my work mail app don't work on custom ROMs, so I'm stuck with whatever the manufacturer provides me.

[–] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I've been using custom roms since I was 13/14.

But the allure or a phone that can fit in my hand easily?

But at the same time ugh the knowing that you can't get it because the stock experience is a hell.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 2 points 4 days ago

TBF, the device isn't out yet, so I'd think making a custom ROM would be premature. Your other comment makes me think twice about buying Oneplus again, though.

I got a lot of mileage out of my OP6, so perhaps the last model to receive a custom ROM would serve me fine for a couple of years.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's oneplus so there'll probably be custom ROM support, it's also snapdragon so most likelt

[–] marauding_gibberish142@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The last 3 generations of OnePlus phones do not have custom ROM support AFAIK. They either refuse to unlock the bootloader or do not provide the tool to unbrick the phone anymore, making testing custom ROMs impossible

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago

Oh man there goes my previous comment. such a shame I like my Asus but the they have already dropped the updates for it.

Guess I will have to keep looking then.

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 5 points 4 days ago

That's sad to hear, ROM support used to be great on OP

[–] Mnem667@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

OP12 can run custom ROM. I've tried YAAP, but there was a couple oddities, so back on stock. ETA bootloader unlock was as simple as fastboot commands.

I know that LineageOS devs were complaining about OP not giving them the unbrick tool anymore, without which they can't test their ROM. I don't know if anything has changed since then

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago

Interested by this. Need something to replace my OnePlus 6T that's starting to show its age and would like something a bit smaller.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I may have found my next phone hopefully the custom ROM scene will be good and the camera will be good as well

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Fingers crossed!

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm tired of them quoting phone sizes by screen size as opposed to... well... the actual size of the phone.

Most people will hear 6.3" and think well my old phone was 4.3", clearly this is going to be vastly larger, completely forgetting that bezels these days are practically non-existent, whereas they used to take up half of the frontal area.

The original Galaxy Note had a 5.2" screen. By modern standards that's puny. You'd assume that phone is absolutely tiny. Yet the Note is actually 14% larger than the current S25 Ultra with a 6.9" screen.

[–] Welp_im_damned@lemdro.id 2 points 4 days ago

Oh this looks nice. I want to see how it compares to my pixel 9 pro. It will probably do better in terms of gaming and battery life compared to my pixel.

[–] stucljr@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That's a dope color

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Quite enthusiast for this device, nice to see a larger battery than Samsung and Pixels

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Who people actually like OnePlus? I went with a Motorola and I believe get much more value for the money.

(OnePlus is from China. I tried Xiaomi, also from China, which I have very bad experiences with. No Xiaomi ever for me).

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Motorola is also Chinese lmfao. (Wholly owned by Lenovo)

But I just spent a couple hours yesterday upgrading my Onplue 5t and 6t to Android 15 w/ LineageOS, so if nothing else I love that they are open enough with their drivers and such that the open source community can build for their phones.

I've been using Samsung mainly for the past few years and I kinda miss being able to root and ROM.

Edit: Seems like Oneplus got less open since the 9

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago

You're right Lenovo is also from China.

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a Motorola phone, I'm quite happy with it.

However, there is one main issue I have with some of their models: not using Snapdragon chipsets for less powerful Mediatek (also, this reduces the likelihood of custom ROM support) The 50 Neo for instance is a nice model, but the Mediatek 7300 is less powerful than the Snapdragon 888+ used in the 30 Fusion, release a few years before: https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/qualcomm-snapdragon-875-vs-mediatek-dimensity-7300

https://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_edge_50_neo-13224.php

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Noted. I also have a older Motorola phone as my main driver.: Moto G73. Which is pretty cheap (under €/$200), and not best the best display. But apart from the display, its a great phone Imo.

But the newer Motorola Edge 50 Pro does come actually with a Qualcomm Snapdragon 7 Gen 3 processor. Granted its not the Snapdragon 8 like the flagship OnePlus comes with.

But just by comparing the specs and the price, I think you get overall better value for a Motorola. Unless you really want to have the high spec and high price of OnePlus I suppose.

[–] Blaze@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Motorola Edge 50 Pro

161 mm. As much as 155mm being compact is debatable, personally anything above 160 is too big for me.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 4 days ago

I have big hands =D

[–] Welp_im_damned@lemdro.id 2 points 4 days ago

Ik some people who enjoy OnePlus. My own plan was to get an op13 before I got a killer deal for the p9p. OP skin is pretty good in my experience compared to Xiaomi's.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 days ago

I love my recent oneplus phones. Yes from China, where all the recent good shit is coming out of.

[–] JayGray91@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Would be pretty crap of them that the smaller phone has a larger battery capacity.

In fact I'd be pissed because I'm planning to buy the OnePlus 13 kek

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Maybe wait a bit to see how it evolves