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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 431 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson -- an innocent man and father of two young children

Innocent man my ass

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 335 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

19 and 16 are "young" children? Not to mention the fact that he was separated from his wife and his contact with them was limited. Unlike with hundreds, if not thousands, of parents he killed with his policy of denying coverage.

The obvious fellating of the ruling class by the mainstream media is annoying as fuck.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago

Nearly 26.6 million people in the U.S. rely on UnitedHealthcare Employer & Individual through insured and self-funded plans. In addition, we serve more than 7.5 million people with care and benefits services outside of the United States.

Rather than hundreds to thousands, I'm going to go with thousands to tens of thousands.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago

How about a new rule... You don't get to call them young children if you think that they are old enough to work long hours at a hazardous job without breaks, or that they are old enough (by 2 or more years!) to be married to a 60+ year old pervert. You lose all moral standing to call them "young children" if you do.

[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Same aged kids are 'practically an adult' when congressmen traffic then.

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 162 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Brian Thompson - unconvicted mass murderer and father of two grown children.

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 68 points 3 days ago

For which he thankfully received the death penalty.

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[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Kill 24 normal citizens in a mass shooting in a Walmart, plea deal. Allegedly Kill 1 billionaire, death penalty

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think he was a billionaire. But his job was a nasty one that did please billionaires.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Indications seem to be high 8 to low 9 figs. There is a fucking ocean between "not billionaire" and "average guy". Also, obligatory fuck Brian Thompson.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

He was nasty. No one who isn't could have done that job.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

In Texas, you can shoot a guy in a wheelchair in between child molestations and the Governor while shake your hand while he pardons you.

[–] RainbowHedgehog@50501.chat 329 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The “pro-life” party really loves the death penalty…

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 208 points 3 days ago (1 children)

they need live babies to they can become dead soldiers

— George Carlin

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

More workers than soldiers at this point

I have a friend who studies behavior but applied to employment systems. Tons of research there on getting the most out of your employees. This sounds terrible when you first hear it right? But when you read it it’s about not burning out staff with reasonable quotas and demands, using positive reinforcement, building morale, etc. basically that you might decrease output slightly now but you’ll increase retention of the staff and the staff will overall be much more satisfied

They reject this in basically every industry even though it’s evidence based. It’s easier to burn people out and churn through workers. Meanwhile humanity stays poor and miserable for the most part (aside from a small percentage that makes out like bandits)

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[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

In this case it’s just the rich punishing a plebeian for daring to challenge them, in the hopes of they make his punishment terrible enough everyone else will be too scared to rise up.

But in answer to you astute observation that the ‘pro-life’ people love the death penalty, the reason is simple: to these people, being ‘bad’ isn’t something you do, it’s something you are.

So to them it’s not a break in internal logic at all. They gave the pure, innocent baby a chance, but they turned out to be a Bad Person, so they must be punished, because that’s what you deserve for being a Bad Person.

This is why they favor punitive jailing and killing criminals instead of trying to reform criminals; criminals are Bad, and so they will always do Bad Things.

It’s also why they do stuff like try to get rid of abortion. If a woman got pregnant from ‘sleeping around’ then she’s a Bad Person and deserves to be punished by carrying the child to term.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The death of one, a tragedy. The death of millions, statistics.

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

death of millions for profit - solid business practice, congratulations and see you again at next shareholder meeting

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 50 points 2 days ago

This has a potentially significant chance of backfiring, as it is more difficult to get a jury to convict when the death penalty is at stake.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 180 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How to make a martyr in 180 days?

It's really crazy we are literally living in a new type of world.

The wealthy ARE the powerful, but the rest of us out number them to such grand extent that the only way they can remain wealthy is through fear and murder.

There is no war but class war.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago (12 children)

They’re sitting in a working class revolt powder keg and they just lit the match ….lol

[–] space_iio@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The working class in America are so docile and subdued at this point that they won't notice when all this happens.

Death penalty would take several years to happen and by then people will have forgotten. Only a couple of remaining groupies will make a fuss.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So they basically admit it is about revenge, not justice? How dare someone of the working class attack someone clearly superior! We must punish this worthless creature to put them into their rightful place at the bottom of the taxpaying pyramid!

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 121 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If everything is the death penalty we might as well do everything.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 days ago

The punishment for stealing from the king's garden is death.

The punishment for killing the king so everyone may eat from it is death.

Might as well go for the most effective use of your life.

[–] tacobellhop@midwest.social 29 points 3 days ago

This is straight up Diogenes. As in, same problem for the last 2300 years.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

hmm so death is an appropriate consequence for killing people, huh. so she's admitting that Luigi allegedly delivered justice, actually.

I think it's inappropriate for a lawyer to use stage names though. I mean, Pam Bondi? come on.

[–] Eldritch_Alyx@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A man killed a man that was killing thousands of men.

So, we should kill him!

Are they not vindicating Luigi by wanting this?

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

If we live in a country where a child can get ran over or shot every day and nobody gets prison time for it, we can set a man free who kills a serial killer that preys on the poor and injured for profit.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We all now know for sure what scares them.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 90 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He should run for congress because there are no consequences for crime if you get elected before the justice system has time to convict

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[–] grte@lemmy.ca 139 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 34 points 3 days ago (8 children)

So they want to make a martyr of him.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago

That corrupt piece of shit that dropped the trump University case for fifty bucks and a case of Boone's Farm wants the DoJ to pursue the death penalty for a homicide. Sure. Best timeline ever.

[–] danhab99@programming.dev 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Whenever I think of the Dylan Roof incident.

The death penalty isn't a punishment, who really learns from it, the criminal? It's a tool for society to remove what amounts to a defective person (not human, person). People are supposed to value the lives of other people by default. Any sustained deviation from this norm is a symptom of a person who cannot value life.

Dylan Roof was given 1000s of opportunities to demonstrate that he did actually value life but because of his defective nature there was no choose but to remove him.

"Life in prison" can be canceled/pardoned/changed, death cannot. That is why it's near impossible to make it happen and even if it does,, people spend the rest of their lives waiting for their "execution" (ftr Dylan is still alive at this time source).

Now in what possible world would you be able to convince a jury of random peers, or judges with their heads actually screwed on tight, that a sample size of one murder proves that a person is defective.

Genuine responses only:

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The prosecutor claims that he endangered others around the victim. But if you watch the video you can tell he clearly was careful to not cause harm to anyone else. He could have bombed him, done a drive-by or any other method but he shot him with single shots at a close range. If they go for the death penalty he'll walk.

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[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's because the wealthy run things, and the victim was wealthy.

Game, set and match.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 65 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You want a riot? Cause your gonna get one.

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[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 89 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 81 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat noooooooooooo, that can't be right. Who other than every single person alive saw that coming?

Hopefully, they will televise it and trump will say "You're fired" right before they pull the switch. That would be on par with the shitshow circus we live in these days.

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[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Protect him at all costs!

[–] VisionScout@lemmy.wtf 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He should have used a car to run him down.

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[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 62 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's my understanding that this will make it far more difficult for them to get a conviction/verdict. Going for the death penalty has certain bars to hit during a trial by jury. It's often why prosecutors go after lesser sentences on things people absolutely did the worse versions of. This gives them a much more likely guilty verdict from a jury.

By doing this, they're basically torpedoing the case, as I understand it.

Purely to try and scare people/send a message.

When he's rendered a verdict of not-guilty for the crimes that would lead to the death penalty, but is guilty of something relatively trivial, like "owning an unregistered firearm", this could come back to bite them in the ass.

But who knows. I've been hoping for the judicial system to bite the ass of fascists for almost a decade now, without much luck.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Remember nothing about this will be a fair trial. This is going to be the most cooked trial you've ever seen in your life. Jurors will be downright threatened if not bribed.

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[–] Sundiata@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Oh that piece of shit, does she not understand this will make matters worse?

She will turn him into a martyr, this administration is the dumbest I have seen in my whole fucking life.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Higher burden of proof on a case that already has improperly collected evidence? Sure thing, go ahead and virtue signal to the right that you're still the party of law and order. The billionaires should still be scared after reading this.

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

Can't say it on Reddit, but I hope that they can't find a jury who would convict him.

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