Human nature : memes

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

sometimes when I'm in a real 'shower thoughts' mood I find it deeply amusing how we needed marxism to understand this, or at least have it defensibly asserted

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think that most people realize that if anything, human nature is inherently selfless, even communistic, in the grand scheme of things.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

always funny how anti-communists are always saying "but human nature is inherently selfish, communism never works!" when people who study human nature for a living say "human nature is so extremely complicated and changes based on so many factors that a universal 'human nature' doesn't even exist"

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Equally important in dialectical materialism is that humans shape nature as we as are being shaped by it through sensuous activity - I.e. labour, transforming things with our hands, talking to and convincing others of viewpoints etc.

[+] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Three examples of oversimplifying things

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Marxist perspective complicates it, by definition

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's more to us than just the material conditions around us. One example: friends, or lack thereof.

Reducing humanity down to less than what it is, is simplifying it. Even if it's complicated compared to other perspectives

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Explain to me how friends, or lack thereof, changes "human nature"?

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Humans are social animals. Social isolation can cause long term brain damage. There's more to it, as you may have guessed. But the person you fundamentally are can be altered by much more than just the material stuff around you

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good thing we're not talking about individuals here, but rather the aggregate behavior of humanity.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ahh, that was not clear from that post! It makes a lot more sense now

[–] ZEDtheRED@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I've been living alone with no friends and no family for 2 years and I am FEELING IT.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am sorry to hear that. It sounds like you need to invest some time/energy/money into socializing

[–] ZEDtheRED@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wow I would not expect that sort of reply from someone on Lemmygrad. You know some people are very very poor, and live in public housing in the 'hood, and are surrounded by liberals? There literally is not one adult my age or any age in the area that wishes to hang out with a communist. I feel like telling you to get bent

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 2 points 5 days ago

I'm sorry. That is context I did not know. I genuinely think people deserve to be happy, that includes you. My advice may be terrible, but I hope you figure things out regardless

[–] Magicicad@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Marxist position is quite literally “it depends” and “it’s complicated”

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com -5 points 2 weeks ago

That's not what this meme presents tho

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