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How do these Natalists feel about the African continent?

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"Natalists" are right-wingers brainwashed into "shitting out" workers for the capitalists. It's not even about the white race, just about providing more wage-slaves.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing that colors babies is melanin

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

And a lot of other things if you paint them with it

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Antinatalism what what - don't make fresh when plenty actual living kids need rescuing.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago

Adopt, don't ~~shop~~ breed!

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I watched a video recently on how South Korea is pretty fucked because of their declining birth rate. 2.1 is fine by me.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (12 children)

There is nothing bad about going back to a sustainable population level. The cost for raising a child is greater than the cost for taking care of elderly. When elderly die that frees up resources for the next generation making it even easier.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The problem with declining population is the huge bubble pop you get when the population is mostly elderly people and few workers.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Right, but this can be resolved with immigration.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago
[–] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's not a solution, that's just outsourcing the childbirth

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Immigration isn’t ‘outsourcing childbirth’, it’s investing in the future of our country. People who come here, build lives, and raise families contribute just as much to our communities as anyone born here. Their children are American in every meaningful way. That’s not a loophole, that’s the foundation of our nation. If we start drawing lines around who counts as a 'real' solution based on origin, we’re moving away from what has always made America strong.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Maybe in the west. Not in places like South Korea or Japan. Even if you got the populations to buy in to immigration 100%, you’ve got an impossible task convincing immigrants to learn the language.

English’s hegemony over the world makes immigration to non-English-speaking areas a huge problem. Quebec, for example, tries mightily to force immigrants to learn French and the results are quite ugly in Quebec politics.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

This is Asia we're talking about. The land of robots. They'll be fine.

[–] Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I mean you're presupposing that it's important to convince immigrants to learn the language. Maybe multiculturualism is okay actually

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Learning the local language is a survival skill. It doesn’t require forgetting your first language nor does it mean the end of your culture.

The issue is that groups of immigrants can form enclaves where they speak their own language but not the local language. This has the effect of making them “second class” and limiting both their economic opportunities and their overall contribution to society.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The cost for raising a child is greater than the cost for taking care of elderly

Holy [citation needed], Batman!

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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Europe is below 2 almost everywhere.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I too subscribe to Kurzgesagt!

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[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago

Natalism (also called pronatalism or the pro-birth position) is a policy paradigm or personal value that promotes the reproduction of human life as an important objective of humanity and therefore advocates a high birthrate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalism

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The 14 Words: The New Generation.

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