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It's hard to imagine a world with no freedom of thought being better, somehow.
In practice, I doubt we'll ever have to sacrifice much more than we already have. Which is actually a significant amount. For example, until recent history living on a schedule was for ascetics and flagellants.
Private property for sure, as I don't have any.
Freedom of speech too, as I don't have any.
I'd sacrifice social media algorithms. Delete them all.
Also ban advertisements
A better world wouldnβt require sacrificing freedoms.
Private property isn't a sacrifice. I don't own any.
There's a difference between personal property and private property. Private property is a mall, is a factory, is machinery at your workplace. Personal property is your toothbrush, your Playstation, your Television, your blender, your set of German knives, your computer, your books, etc.
Freedom of speech has never existed. The illusion of it has been allowed to be stronger or weaker in various places at various times, if your speech is no threat it's often allowed, it's when it's a threat that suddenly the freedom vanishes and hides behind excuses like national security or illegal ideologies, etc.
I question how you would get rid of freedom of thought without some sort of hellish brain implants being made mandatory so it's an odd thing to mention.
I'd be willing to sacrifice an awful lot of fascists, reactionaries, and an awful lot of enabling liberals. I'd be willing to sacrifice bourgeoisie. The expropriation of their private property is not a sacrifice but a necessity for things being held in common trust for the people.
Private property. I don't actually want to own things for the sake of owning things, I want a stable and reasonably comfortable life. In the current system, the only way to reliably achieve that is to own the things you need in your life. But if the system were such that you could live a decent life without owning a thing, I'll take that.
And that is with the interpretation of private property as literally any possession you can own. If we go by the socialist interpretation of private property as property used to generate capital, I already have no private property and neither do most people here.
I don't particularly want to be remembered for anything in my life. I don't need fame or standing. I dedicate my life to trying to improve people's lives as a teacher. I'd give my life if it meant everyone would live a significantly better life forever.
Billionaires, to the god Quetzalcoatl.
I think we could sacrifice billionaires to Peppa Pig and it'd still get the job done.
I'm the guy dancing in this image
Hey can you tell me whatβs the source of this please? Seems interesting
I'm going to guess it's from the movie Apocalypto, but I might be wrong.
the ability to lie and "falsely claim".
imagine everybody is stricken with that boy's wish from "liar liar"
sure there would be a bunch of hurt feelings, but maybe the better world can compensate?
Convenience.
Sadly it is something far fewer people are willing to give up than any of the above.
It really depends on the kind of convenience.
Some conveniences are easier to give up, especially if giving them up will benefit others.
Example: if we are willing to walk around with smartphones that are 5mm thicker and 50g heavier, and a bit less slick in design, we can fix them instead of buying new ones. This kind of things. And we are not even willing to give that up.
This guy speaks about this (I'm not sure if this is the right video)
Who is "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket or something? I absolutely would make that sacrifice. I hate smartphones. I didn't own one until 2020 and only ended up with it because some scumbag salesman tricked my aging mom into buying it and adding a new number on her account under contract. So she gave it to me. I wish smartphones would go away. They are as "smart" as AI is "intelligent". I've gone without a car most of my life, i've never had netflix/instagram/amazon/twitter/etc accounts, I didn't have internet for the first 15 years as an adult and I am ready to give these things I have now that I don't want, which are somehow mandatory to participate in life these days. The prospect of getting rid of it all and trying my hand at hermit life or as a hobo grow stronger every day.
It won't be a better world if there's no private property or freedom of speech or freedom to breed or freedom of thought.
The instant these freedoms are forfeited, the world becomes worse.
No private property = better world for everyone (bourgies dont count)
How much better we talking here?
Super better. All the important stuff free and top quality. Moonbase.
I'll let you have my cats but you have to take both because they're family. And I get to visit.
I think we have more fundamental things to worry about than the cost of stuff.
Vanity projects.
My car and my motorcycle. The motorcycle in particular hurts a bit more because that leans more into the sport and pleasure (cars do it for me too, but I like the MC more). I live in the US so no decent public transport for me. I'd have to walk about a half mile to get to the closest stop to my house. Closest drop off to my work still means another walk of two miles. Side walks are a bit lacking too. Not to mention that the scheduled for the bus is a bit too limited for what I need.
I love driving for fun, in particular on the MC, but that is getting to. Having to? That sucks and is kind of bad for the environment.
I don't think a better world would include sacrificing those freedoms actually. That's some tankie shit.
Me sitting in a tank: "hand over your freedums, in exchange you get freedom"
Trump.
Not really a sacrifice if it's something you don't want
Depends on your definition. Itβs called a play on words.
emotionally, i want to say any and everything including my life, but i know that is merely talk until i have something deadly to face. however, i truly believe there isn't a single human rights issue not deserving of risking it all. but i am cowardly because i am fearful and insecure. i don't believe in myself although i try to. i have given up personal comforts for those i don't know and my friends, but am i ready to face something as severe as prison or being sent to a camp? i want to say "yes, of course," but.. idk. i know if our culture became more radical and revolutionary then i would feel ideological support from those around me and would be more willing to engage.
Would you sacrifice your sex hormones? No more estrogen or testosterone.
take it, pls
everyone with a net worth of over $1 million
though i would do that for air miles tbh
Nothing because there is nothing guaranteeing the better world would remain intact.
I'd give it 3-4 generations...
Low taxes when I become a billionaire
Do you build your public order and happiness buildings first in total war games?
Would you sacrifice your flesh? No more body. Brain slurped out at birth, wired up to the internet.
Probably not, that sounds dangerous
Youβre not doing a very good job of selling it, but the concept has merit.