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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 75 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The real one is equally messed up:

[–] Pipster@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For the longest time I assumed the Midwest was a purely descriptive term based on location and not one that was defined... Finding out Ohio was in the Midwest blew my mind.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm from the Midwest and so many people when I tell them or discuss being Midwestern have no idea that it's Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, etc. They treat me like I'm stupid. Well they're not wrong, but I didn't make that shit up.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Makes perfect sense to me. The entirety of the USA is in The West™ so the middle of it is The Midwest™.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 days ago

Ah yes I too remember 1942 when Columbus landed in San Francisco. /S

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Think of the time when the name came about (late 1700s or early 1800s), anything beyond the coastal states was "the west" and what they called the Midwest was (kind of) in the middle of it.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yup. West of the East Coast cities, but not past the mountains. Which for the most part acted as a barrier.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, it was definitely past the mountains, just not past the other mountains.

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

"We've had mountains yes, but what about second mountains?"

[–] Taco2112@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It’s because the term came from a time when everything west of the Mississippi River was “the West”

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

Ohio ain't even mid it's skibidi

[–] Undearius@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

"East North Central" is in the "Midwest"

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

cracks me us there is not southwest as in the desert southwest

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Yep, Arizona, Alaska, Hawaii, all the same.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is obviously poorly designed.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'd say so too. If you're in Detroit or Chicago, you're in the East North Central, Midwest, lol.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I want to argue, but Kansas is definitely mid.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The middest of the midmid.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I like this version better than the real "Midwest", which isn't western at all, and hasn't been for well over a century. Hell, there were forts on the west coast in 1792.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I mean yeah there were forts there but they wouldn't be American for another half century. So, I don't know that that is particularly relevant to this discussion.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

Shouldnt it be SouthMid and NorthMid?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seems like I live in the Neutral Evil part of the US. Yeah that tracks.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Glad I'm not the only one who saw an alignment chart. West Coast the best coast, but it's especially fun given Florida is Chaotic Evil.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

I love that SoCal is the midwest now

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago

Wiki wiki mid-midwest

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

Yep, I'm going to the MidEast for a business trip next month.

What? Doha?

No, New York, New York City...

Needs aligned with latitude and longitude. The North-South(or East-West, idc that much) middle should be "Center", and the Coasts should get their own thing.

Points for "Midmid" when "Middle" and "Central" were right there though.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

in alignment chart terms we'd call that True Mid

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago

I don't like this.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bottom row is fucked from increasing heatwaves, colors should reflect that

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Midwest" needs to be red af

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

OK, but That's not bottom row.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Shh theyre from the southeast. Just let them believe what they want. It's easier.

What is this? A southwest for ants?

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The projection is what annoys me the most. At least have it line up with latitude/longitude.

[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

i refuse to belive california is in the midwest

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Giving Midmid.

[–] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

I like it better than the current convention

[–] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Midmid is basically the old Big 8 conference, which made a lot more sense than the bastardized hellscape we have now

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Missing 49, 50, 51. Alaska, northwest, northwest. Hawaii, west, west. And Canada north, north

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Alberta: NorthMidNorth